(22) please tell me if this is a bad fold

[beeyjay]

calling preflop is cut and dry. folding is just intact and wet.

[pooh74]

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hero is SB.

and it's under 7%.

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yeah, I dont play 800 chip games, but I dont see what's so bad about the way hero played this hand.

The fold is fine given your line of play. Your goal in Party's STTs is to get to level 4 (50-100) with at least 600 chips preferably 650, since fold equity in later levels is how to pump up the ROI. No need to risk any more chips in a situation where you are most likely beaten.

Regarding your limp from the SB with KJ, I think it's fine. The 5 chips you pay are nothing. The only thing to be careful of is investing too much when you hit a marginal flop. Betting 55 like you did is great for cash game play (I prefer 40-50 personally given the pot size), or if you know all the opponents are tough and that it's going to be 7+ handed at the 50-100 level. However, the $20+$2 STTs are all about play in the later levels. If you have an easy double up in the first 2-3 levels, take it. If not, run away to guarantee that you are in the fight later. In the $30+$3 STTs and below, I play roughly like the following. In the first two levels, I raise to 4xBB plus an extra BB per limper with [AA,QQ]. In unraised pots, I limp with [JJ,22], looking to flop a set. I also limp with [AK,AQ] (why raise, risking 10% or more of your stack in a situation where you can only continue when you hit 1/3.2ish times). When I hit the flop, I bet 2x-3x pot to take the pot down right there...I don't want to leak away two 2/3 pot bets to a flush draw that hits. If I get reraised all-in, I call in these $20+$2s because, well, people there will play back at an overbet with a wide range of trash. I fold all other hands except the SB, in which I limp with any two cards in an unraised pot looking to get two pair or better. If I hit, I again play it hard. If I just hit top pair, I keep the brakes on. My play early is really weak tight, but the chips lost by not taking +EV situations that I give up early are small compared to the size of the blinds once the tourney really starts (level 4).

[MegaBet]

This is where notes/reads are important. If I have neither, I give them the benefit of the doubt and fold. The large raise might not suggest 55 or 66, but then overbetting monsters seems to be the fashion at the moment. K5 or K6 are both very possible. Unlikely to be KQ or a flush draw IMO. I have seen people do this with K9/K10.

[fisherman112]

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fold preflop. pretty cut and dry.

u have donked off roughly 9% of your stack with KJ.
i know this sounds harsh, but ask yourself this.... what expectations did you have limping into this pot? so you hit a king... now what? reasonable chance you're out kicked. so you hit 2 pair and are rerised as you were here... then what? rule of thumb for me,,, know what your expectations are when entering a hand, and know when to get out. It's level 1, what's the upside? multi action limped pots are a great way to get out early.

my $.02

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he was the small blind.
kj isnt necessarily running into kicker trouble in limped pots at 20+2s.

[flyingmoose]

I'd fold that even in an MTT -- and I'm a laggy psycho in MTTs. In an STT, I probably break my mouse by hitting fold so hard.

[MegaBet]

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I'd fold that even in an MTT -- and I'm a laggy psycho in MTTs. In an STT, I probably break my mouse by hitting fold so hard.

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So what do you put villain on to make you fold so enthusiastically?

[fisherman112]

i put him on building a large pot against me early in an stt when im out of position with a vunerable hand and virtually no way of knowing exactly what he has.

[MegaBet]

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i put him on building a large pot against me early in an stt when im out of position with a vunerable hand and virtually no way of knowing exactly what he has.

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Go all in and you'll soon find out how strong/weak his hand is! j/k [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Irieguy]

I have no idea... your avatar is mesmirizing.

Irieguy