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Old 09-03-2005, 03:14 PM
AlphaWice AlphaWice is offline
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

IMO (although I am a noob) this advice is awful. My reasoning is: If I called a PF raise of 4xBB, I would bet 100% of the time on a low flop if checked to me.
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

So, what line should I use? I see some people saying to raise to 3xBB and then checkfold? I think this is too passive.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

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So, what line should I use? I see some people saying to raise to 3xBB and then checkfold? I think this is too passive.

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it's not to passive; it's smart and it's standard. you've already seen how raising too much and then betting a missed flop has already lost you more money than you needed to lose.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

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it's not to passive; it's smart and it's standard

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Check/folding after you brick a flop heads up is smart and standard? Wow.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

Do you raise A-K out of position if you will check fold the flop 80% of the time?
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

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it's not to passive; it's smart and it's standard

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Check/folding after you brick a flop heads up is smart and standard? Wow.

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why don't you tell him what he/she wants to hear then.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

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it's not to passive; it's smart and it's standard

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Check/folding after you brick a flop heads up is smart and standard? Wow.

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why don't you tell him what he/she wants to hear then.

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I'm pretty sure that's not what he was going for.

This is a pretty nice missed flop. Easy to play. You lead out with a CB, and pick it up the vast majority of the time. If he raises he has you beat, you dump it.

Yeah he lost chips on this particular hand. But this is going to be a winner in the long run.

If you were the button, what would it take to get you to bet once the flop is checked to you?
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:32 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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If you were the button, what would it take to get you to bet once the flop is checked to you?

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i don't remember the button being discussed in this hand.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

I think he played it fine, although I make it either 150 or 175, depending on what flavor of Gatorade I'm drinking at the moment. I lead the flop for about 1/2-3/4ths, and fold to a push.

I do occassionally check/fold this flop heads up. Not coincidentally, it's when i'm playing and running pretty bad. I turn into a giant pussy and stop trying to pick up chips when they're there to be picked up because i'm afraid i'll get raised.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG 10handed

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If you were the button, what would it take to get you to bet once the flop is checked to you?

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i don't remember the button being discussed in this hand.

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My bad, if you were CO (or the player with position), what would it take to get you to bet?
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