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#11
08-03-2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: Pot Odds and the Flop/Turn Dynamic
You can easily calculate them yourself.
You know 5 cards on the flop, so you have 47 unseen card. So your odds are 1 to (47-outs)/outs You don't have to be a genius to come up with that 
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#12
08-03-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: Pot Odds and the Flop/Turn Dynamic
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Use the odds from flop to turn. But they are nearly the same than from turn to river, since you just have one card more information und one card less in the deck. [/ QUOTE ] Wait a minute I see what you are saying, use the odds from the turn to river to calculate the odds from flop to turn, treating the turn/river decision completely seperate. I like this idea, you guys have just blown my mind. [/ QUOTE ] Well actually I said use the odds from flop to turn on the flop and the odds from turn to flop on the turn. But since they are nearly the same it probably doesn't matter. However, I have memorized the most recent odds for both streets (with one decimal). [/ QUOTE ] Oh I see. I think my flawed logic comes from the odds chart I have been using (and memorized) since I started playing poker. It has odds from flop to river and turn to river. Well, it seems that I have found a rather large leak and I am glad I asked. Can someone link me a chart that has the flop to turn odds? [/ QUOTE ] actually NM, I will just figure them myself, I need to quit being so lazy.
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#13
08-03-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: Pot Odds and the Flop/Turn Dynamic
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You can easily calculate them yourself. You know 5 cards on the flop, so you have 47 unseen card. So your odds are 1 to (47-outs)/outs You don't have to be a genius to come up with that [/ QUOTE ] Just noticed this, you are right.
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#14
08-03-2005, 02:23 PM
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Re: Pot Odds and the Flop/Turn Dynamic
It depends on my hand.
If I have overcards or a gutshot, I'm only looking at my odds to improve for the next card. But if I have a hand that I'm likely going to see to the river... a flush draw, or perhaps an OESD draw, then I use the percentages of hitting on both streets. And I take that % into account in order to pump the draws... for 2 callers w/ a flush draw, or 3 callers with an OESD draw. So it just changes for me. KO
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#15
08-03-2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: Pot Odds and the Flop/Turn Dynamic
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It depends on my hand. If I have overcards or a gutshot, I'm only looking at my odds to improve for the next card. But if I have a hand that I'm likely going to see to the river... a flush draw, or perhaps an OESD draw, then I use the percentages of hitting on both streets. And I take that % into account in order to pump the draws... for 2 callers w/ a flush draw, or 3 callers with an OESD draw. So it just changes for me. KO [/ QUOTE ] Yes, checking if you have an equity edge should also be done. If you have one you should pump the draws. In this cases I use the percentages too, rather than fractions.
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