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Old 09-14-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

Awful. (check-fold the turn.)
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:08 PM
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Raise PF UTG w/ 88!?! Are you crazy? This would probably put your PFR around 15-20%

You better play damm well post flop.

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Wrong and we try.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

Misplayed on every street (and the first one twice).
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:18 PM
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Misplayed on every street (and the first one twice).

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If you get to the river you're bet-folding?
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

I'm sure there have been hands that were played worse in the history of poker.

I just cant think of any [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

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Misplayed on every street (and the first one twice).

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If you get to the river you're bet-folding?

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If I am going to get silly and push a hand that hard, I've put myself in a spot on the river where it's 8:1 to attempt to take it down with a bet. So yes, I'll bet/fold rather than check/fold.

But I won't be in that spot often.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

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Misplayed on every street (and the first one twice).

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If you get to the river you're bet-folding?

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If I am going to get silly and push a hand that hard, I've put myself in a spot on the river where it's 8:1 to attempt to take it down with a bet. So yes, I'll bet/fold rather than check/fold.

But I won't be in that spot often.

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I think we agree that neither of us is in this spot. I don't think putting in any more bets on the river is good though.
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Old 09-14-2005, 05:25 PM
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Raise PF UTG w/ 88!?! Are you crazy? This would probably put your PFR around 15-20%.

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Like 15%. At least that's what mine is and I will sometimes raise down to 55 UTG.
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Old 09-14-2005, 05:26 PM
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I'm sure there have been hands that were played worse in the history of poker.

I just cant think of any [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Your JJ hand against stinkypete? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-14-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: 88: LRR from UTG

So we've established that the original preflop limp is not good. And that the postflop pretty much sucks.

But is the re-raise preflop that bad? I've found myself in this spot occasionally when the table turns uncharacteristically tight after I limp in EP with a pocket pair, and I've noticed that, in the hands I have re-raised (very small sample size), my opponents have played quite weirdly/badly against me. It puts them in an uncomfortable spot. I think it is an okay change up, althought it's much better to avoid the situation by raising the first time around.

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