To the Moneyaker followers

[Nottom]

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The point of my post was the questions I asked, not to flame you people who are all horny about this guy.

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I don't think anybody is "horny" about MM, we are just sick of people bshing him for no reason.

Was he the best player in the field? no.
Did he get his share of good cards at the right times? absolutely.
Has any previous WSOP winner not gotten lucky a few times on his way to the winner's circle? Certainly not.

As others have stated before, winning a big tourney like that takes a combination of luck and skill, sure you need to get lucky but you need skill to even put yourself in a position to get lucky.

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And, adding up all the odds of the beats he did... collectively would this compare to winning the lottery or something like 20,000-1... 1,000,000-1.. i have no idea, that is why I am asking.

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This is an absurd statement. Its not like MM was never sucked out on or was behind in every hand he played, just not in any of the big hands they showed. This is like calculating the odds that there is a guy with a scruffy beard, wearing a grey shirt, sitting in a black chair, drinking a root bear, and typing a response on 2+2 to this topic. I'm sure if you calculated the odds of all that happening at this very moment they would be astronomical, but it doesn't matter cause I know for a fact its actually happening.

If someone were to take odds on MM prior to last years WSOP, I'm sure you could have gotten 5000-1. This year I'd be surprised if you could get 400-1.

Just give the man his due and stop the mindless MM bashing. He just went out and placed second in a WPT event, so unless he's the luckiest man alive, he has to be pretty good at this game.

[Ulysses]

This is like calculating the odds that there is a guy with a scruffy beard, wearing a grey shirt, sitting in a black chair, drinking a root bear, and typing a response on 2+2 to this topic. I'm sure if you calculated the odds of all that happening at this very moment they would be astronomical, but it doesn't matter cause I know for a fact its actually happening.

You know for a fact some dude posting on 2+2 is drinking a bear? That is crazy.

[47outs]

Good post, thanks. You give great arguements but what I dont agree with was the 88 hand, makes me cringe every time I see it. I will let it die, it was just on my mind so I had to put it out there.

OutsS

[ScottyP431]

"This year I'd be surprised if you could get 400-1. "


Ummm... ill give 400-1, [censored] ill give 1000-1

[Al_Capone_Junior]

[AJo Go All In]

you are wrong.

moneymaker made a very small bet on the AQ vs 99 hand. ivey called the flop intending to freeze moneymaker.

why would he fold 99 on that board to a very small bet? that would be very weak.

[theBruiser500]

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ivey called the flop intending to freeze moneymaker.

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what does this mean? And how many chips were gotten in preflop, on the flop and on the turn if you remember?

danny

[Sloats]

HULL'S SKATE WAS IN THE CREASE. NO GOAL!!!







[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]what? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] wrong sour grapes thread?

[Gamblor]

Someone should shoot Hasek and get it over with. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Despite his skill, he's a detriment to the game.

Discuss.

[Rushmore]

Hockey being what it is these days, I'd be careful what I suggest.

Next you'll be suggesting someone "break his neck."