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Old 12-29-2003, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: BlackJack Negative EV Question

true for now only because the local rooms cant put in video poker yet. but the ones that can do it, and put in the beatable games, the same can be asked. the average player doesnt know the difference. yet you can still find them. though you really have to search them out, they do exist.

usually only for about a day or 2 at the most though before they are tapped. wong's newsletter travels fast about those machines when they become available. same with BJ tables that offer over/under on 1 or 2 decks. the outside profit of those games (players playing other games in the room after being drawn to the beatable ones) must barely be high enough to get em in there for that short period of time. but then again, most casinos are so desperate for every last dollar theyll do just about anything.

the book 'supercasino' really shows this in modern form. it's not a question of just being high in the black, and sustaining, but being at the highest point in the black. which instead of a nice, smooth upward gain on the profit bar graph, it becomes much more jagged. especially when they spend ridiculous amounts to remodel to show who's got the biggest cock on the strip. which can offset alot of added profits.

anyways, i went a little off topic there but thought it was intersting enough to post. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

just a wee off topic. heh heh

missing the rain of seattle yet?

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Old 12-30-2003, 02:51 AM
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Default ...And such small portions!

"live BJ is highly beatable. rules depending."

Yes, it is beatable in the mathematical/theoretical sense. Actually doing it is another thing altogether, a more difficult affair, fraught with valleys rather than blessed with peaks. (I was surprised when I learned that I may find myself well into the goddamn "long run" and still not win!)

"online BJ i dont believe is beatable longrunwise at all. no way in hell."

Well you gotta factor in the bonuses (while they last).

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Old 12-30-2003, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: ...And such small portions!

ive read alot from the 'bishop' of BJ. he's a great writer, but remember also injects alot of humor into it.

i have beaten it longrunwise, but switched to holdem. beating live BJ really isnt that tough if one invests the time and effort. the game plays itself. the toughest part is not getting caught.

online i purposefully factored out the bonuses. without them, there is no way to beat it. with it, depending on the structure of how much you have to play, the bonus should cover the loss you may have at a table. usually its a # of hands thing, isnt it? so with bonuses, you may be able to win a little. but not alot, IMO.

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