hand from Empire 200k last night - Page 2

MLG · #11 02-28-2005, 06:36 PM

yeah. I miiiiiiiight check an A but I doubt it.

2005 · #12 02-28-2005, 06:40 PM

Ha, caught ya! I wouldn't raise with that card, but with the 14 of purple horseshoes I would. Seriously though, I'm not raising every hand, but I'm raising alot of them and I was picking my spots well last night. I tend to attack the semi-short stacks in this spot. BTW, we were already in the money.

Gavin

MLG · #13 02-28-2005, 06:45 PM

well I actually think being in the money makes playig back with AJ easier, although maybe it makes your raising standards slightly tighter. AJ is just too much hand with that small stack against a very loose open raiser to lay down. Manipulate it to get folding all the folding equity you can.

LethalRose · #14 02-28-2005, 06:45 PM

I push PF like Villian played it.

why stop n go with only 5BB's? time to get my money in the middle.

MLG · #15 02-28-2005, 06:50 PM

Shortstacked is precisely the time to stop n go. If you have a bigger stack then you have FE preflop and there is no reason to stop n go.

2005 · #16 02-28-2005, 06:51 PM

I don't disagree that his hand is way too big to fold against me the way I was playing last night, I just have a disagreement with the way he played it. I think he should have used the stop-n-go.

Gavin

MLG · #17 02-28-2005, 06:52 PM

so do I.

LethalRose · #18 02-28-2005, 06:57 PM

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Shortstacked is precisely the time to stop n go. If you have a bigger stack then you have FE preflop and there is no reason to stop n go.

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I would think if I have no FE preflop being the short stack i need to get the most chips with AJ and vs the big stack im all in PF. A stop and go may work, but you miss out on 5k in chips. The extra chips he acquires would allow him to steal.

I wasnt in the tournament myself but im thinking the extra chips he got allowed him to move up a few spots in the money, maybe even come back to an average stack.

You can tell I never stop and go..

2005 · #19 02-28-2005, 07:00 PM

The problem is... you're getting that extra 5k in when it is absolutely correct for the other player to call. What the stop and go mainly does is reduce your variance by getting folds when you want them.

Gavin

Double Eagle · #20 02-28-2005, 07:00 PM

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I don't disagree that his hand is way too big to fold against me the way I was playing last night, I just have a disagreement with the way he played it. I think he should have used the stop-n-go.

Gavin

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I guess I don't understand where his additional equity is coming from by stop-n-going. You said yourself that you fold to his push if the flop has an ace. Obviously he wants a call in that case. Do you really fold enough (ultimate) winners to offset the chips he loses when you fold your (ultimate) losers?