Struggling with small pockets preflop

[7Dave]

Point taken. I'd still fold everytime unless I was convinced the table was loose-passive enough for something else.

/d

[Chris Daddy Cool]

Wrong.

[Elbie]

Thanks for all the comments

I understand now that my fold to the cap was terrible. Actually I kicked myself even before seeing what the flop had to offer. I don´t think though that limping with small pockets, even UTG, in a party 0.5/1 is terrible, but as I said in my original post I have problems how to handle small pockets preflop and I need advice from more experienced players.

With JJ UTG I´ll rise about 100% of the time trying to force out overcards (like Axo, a hand that otherwise is frequently called with at this level)

Here is the "sad" outcome of the hand. ( Yes I know, don´t stare yourself blind at the outcome of one particular hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (18.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 16.75 BB, between Button, BB and UTG+2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB (16.75 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows As Ac (two pair, aces and eights).
UTG+2 shows Jc Jd (two pair, jacks and eights).
Button shows Kc Qd (two pair, eights and fives).
Outcome: BB wins 16.75 BB. </font>

[chief444]

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Well - you should never be playing 55 UTG.

I don't even play JJ UTG

QQ is where I start playing pockets UTG.


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You are a rock. Way too tight. JJ should be raised all day long from UTG, NOT folded.

Limping with 55 UTG is fine IMO at most typical loose, passive games. Folding to the cap however was bad.

[sublime]

I don't even play JJ UTG.

Your 1000th post should start with:

"I was drunk last night when I posted this"

Horrible advice.

[cartoonsoldier]

I agree the hand is callable pre-flop, only because when you hit the trips against the others high PP, you get paid of lots...as would have happened here.

At party you can play most PP UTG.

[Raiser]

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At party you can play most PP UTG.

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At party .5/1 you can play every PP UTG. As bisonbison once said, if you can't limp in with 22 UTG you need to find another table.

[djcolts]

What's the lowest pair you'd raise with UTG at a typical .5/1 PP game? TT? 99?

[chief444]

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What's the lowest pair you'd raise with UTG at a typical .5/1 PP game? TT? 99?

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I will normally open raise with TT in pretty much any game. I wouldn't normally raise 99 or less at a .5/1 party game from UTG. In a tighter game, I would often raise 99 UTG and sometimes 88.

[HajiShirazu]

[ QUOTE ]
Well - you should never be playing 55 UTG.

I don't even play JJ UTG

QQ is where I start playing pockets UTG.

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I hope you're not serious here.