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Old 10-03-2005, 09:10 PM
gorie gorie is offline
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i doubt it is that they "don't get it" - i'd say it has a lot more to do with not getting their needs met either, and don't want to live just to be a cook/maid/blowupdoll to make sure someone else keeps getting what they want.

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the whole "getting needs met" thing is a load of crap. you got a roof? food? heat in the winter? freedom from violence? access to friends? if you don't have those, you can complain. otherwise, no one gets their needs met, male or female.

i think men on average are worse at it than women, if that softens the blow a bit.

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um, the only reason i am talking about needs being met is because you brought up men not getting their needs met, because of women not understanding what men want (food, sex, and all that other stuff). and implying lack of interest in sex leading to divorce because of women not understand what men need. i was simply pointing out it isn't just about what the man needs, there is obviously 2 people in the relationship.

i agree with you that no one is ever going to get their needs met completely.

as for your other comment about having a roof over your head , heat in winter, etc. should be enough and leave no reason to complain ... i assume your comment is applied to men also (otherwise that is pretty bad.) ?- which brings us back to the beginning of the circle , and you complaining about the whole "men not getting needs met" thing, which i am pretty sure you just admitted to being a load of crap. now i am confused.

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Old 10-03-2005, 10:11 PM
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I do think that some women are much better than others at understanding that men do have needs. One of the many things that makes good wife material is realizing that, for the most part, the big T rules the day with regards to libido and men have the distinct advantage in this area. From a practical standpoint then, a wife will score major points if she is enthusiastically sexual even when she doesn't necessarily want to be, because she "gets off" on satisfying her husband.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:55 PM
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jake please tell us what controlled you the most in your single days, since you insist it wasnt pussy.

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Nothing controlled me, at least as a man. Maybe when I was a 16 year-old kid with raging hormones and no confidence, my dick controlled me. But as a man, I'm in control of myself. If you do what you think you should be doing otherwise, and get your self-esteem and confidence from that then you'll get laid. What other interests do you have besides getting laid? Focus on those.

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I totally agree with this paragraph.

Never seen the Tao of Steve though.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:01 AM
einbert einbert is offline
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Unfortunately, for some reason this forum is incredibly biased against you KKF. I think that sucks because you have a very unique viewpoint and an interesting way of viewing the world in general. I always enjoy reading your thoughts and the discussions that exist in your threads. I wish other people would give you more of a chance, if they thought about some of the things you say they might learn a lot. Unfortunately most males in the world are too concerned with their own primitive competitive drive and fitting in with the large community to do this, or to admit to doing it. That's sad but it's life.

I think you are wrong on a couple of points on this issue in particular. I think my life is not governed by a drive for sex (I'm not married, but do have a girlfriend). I don't think getting married will make my life any easier, in fact I strongly suspect it will make it harder. The same goes for having children. And yes money matters will be more difficult as well. In all, I'd rather not do those things in many ways. But I probably am going to do them, for a few reasons--but the primary one is for personal growth. That is why taking on challenges is important in life.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:27 AM
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i got you baby.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:41 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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this is the most pathetic thing i have ever heard.

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Not nearly as pathetic as the guy that thinks getting laid is the most important thing in life.

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jake please tell us what controlled you the most in your single days, since you insist it wasnt pussy.

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i can honestly say that pussy doesn't control my life. maybe i am much different than other guys though. i do have a girlfriend but it feels like we are married by the way some people around here are describing marriage.

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it sounds like its easy for you to get it (being in a relationship), if you were single, then the first thing on your mind might be finding another one to stick it into... once you found one then that constant would have been met.

i guess married doesnt equal guaranteed sex. but i guess i cant fully understand this or relate. unless you are [censored] something up in the marriage and not doing your part, why would she hold out? and why would you put up with that?
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:49 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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"The only two things worth doin in life for people like us is f4ckin and playin cards kid, and its not close" (old guy at Casino).

Look to all you people saying pussy doesn't matter, consider that you can be [censored] poor, have no education, live in some random country for next to nothing, and have a wild sex life. You're basically living the life, that most people work the 9-5 grind for a one month taste of, all the time. IMO happiness is pretty directly related to feeling healthy and reproducing which is an animals basic biological instincts.

Don't you feel like life is worth living when you wake up at 6am, go for a swim, have sex, then sit around eating papadams?

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nice.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:54 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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1. Don't post crap you know nothing about. (women and money)

2. Its OK to admit you wank.

Where the hell is that over 30 forum when we need it?

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i was just giving my opinion about what i observe from myself and other men. i guess i dont know anything about women, although all the disagreement in this thread would make me believe that everyone has a different experience.

i dont know what you mean when you say i dont understand anything about money.

i dont wank. sorry if that makes you mad.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:34 AM
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i dont wank. sorry if that makes you mad.

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how often do you have wet dreams [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:03 AM
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i guess married doesnt equal guaranteed sex. but i guess i cant fully understand this or relate. unless you are [censored] something up in the marriage and not doing your part, why would she hold out? and why would you put up with that?

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In marriage, or any long term relationship, not getting laid does not necessarily mean she's "holding out". You're not guaranteed sex for a lot of reasons - too tired, not in the mood, whatever. Women have a lower sex drive (in general) than men. They also have different wants/needs in a relationship than men, and often don't consider sex to be just the act of intercourse - there's a lot more to it to them, and after some time, guys stop putting in the effort. We just wanna watch the game, drink a beer, get laid & go to sleep. Women aren't wired that way.

You're young yet... you'll learn.

And for goodness sake... jerk off once in a while. The world becomes much clearer when you do.
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