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Old 09-01-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

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a .2-3BB/100 cut in WR is awful

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Let me make sure I'm getting this right...

So for someone playing 40k hands (at 10/20) a month and a WR of 2bb/100, they are looking at their bottom line being cut by about ~$2000+ a month!?!?!

Is this right?

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Old 09-01-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

yup.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

I did the painstaking job of counting how much the extra rake would have cost me in 46k hands at 3/6 6-max. This is taking into account the pots where there were less than 6 at the table. The final count is 0.14BB/100. Not as bad as initially feared, but it still blows.

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

I'm shocked that you guys couldn't see this coming.

Hopefully all the extra cash will be spent on marketing for more fish, and maybe the tables will get juicer. I only hope [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

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its a bad assumption that there are smart people working for a large corporation?

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mostly correct.
it's a better assumption that IF there are smart people working for a large corporation that they are likely not in positions of power.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

I attempted to extrapolate what the difference would be if I won the same number of pots, of the same number of BB's playing 5/10 and 10/20 as I did 3/6. I'm sure a whole bunch of noise was introduced in doing this (ratio between 6man games and <6man games, differences in how the levels play etc.). The outcome was not pretty. 5/10 should a loss of .38BB/100 and 10/20 should a loss of .33BB/100. I'm not sure if I want to move up anymore.

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:43 AM
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And certainly not listened to. Ignorance and arrogance by the powers that be is a dangerous combo.

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

The stars rake is actually better for the lower limits. They don't take another $0.50 at $50 and the pot has to hit $70 for that last dollar. After looking at PT, that does make a difference.

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

This really pisses me off because I don't even like playing six-handed. It's just too many people at the table. I much perfer 5-max, but play at Party because the advantages of the site outwheigh the 6 vs. 5 issue for me. But it's still really obnoxious that not only do I risk having my shorthanded tables become not-really-shorthanded as more people sit down, but I pay more rake for the priviledge. I could leave whenever the game gets to 6, but it sucks to be constantly swapping tables. Ugh.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: How much does the increased rake at party effect us?

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i dont understand how they think this is good for long term business.

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they're just trying to make more money.
pretty predictable really.

Some of the midwest riverboat casinos in Indiana and Illinois charge a $6 max-rake...yet the players keep on playing.

Supply and demand.
The demand will be virtually the same on Party with the rake-increase.


I'm one that likes playing 3-5 handed anyway but I'm sure it will effect my bottom-line pretty significantly still since I'm not willing to table-hop ALL the time to avoid 6-handed tables.
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