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10-03-2005, 01:29 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from?
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10-03-2005, 01:30 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
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I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle.
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10-03-2005, 01:35 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
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[ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation.
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10-03-2005, 01:43 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Give me a call today and I'll explain it to you. Basically the problem lies in the trouble ICM has when stacks are very short compared to the blinds.
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10-03-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Give me a call today and I'll explain it to you. Basically the problem lies in the trouble ICM has when stacks are very short compared to the blinds. [/ QUOTE ] wanna fill the rest of us in too?
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10-03-2005, 02:00 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Give me a call today and I'll explain it to you. Basically the problem lies in the trouble ICM has when stacks are very short compared to the blinds. [/ QUOTE ] wanna fill the rest of us in too? [/ QUOTE ] Well it's more that I just didn't want to type it out rather then keeping a secret or something. Does SNGPT consider the order of blind movement around the table and factor that into their stack equity? I didn't think it did but I could be wrong, that alone would easily be enough to make my point.
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#8
10-03-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
My suspicion wass that in this case it has to do with the size of the blind in relation to the stacks rather than its order around the table. I.e SNGPT gives the same answer whether 300 chips is 1 bb or 5 bbs. Is this correct?
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10-03-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Give me a call today and I'll explain it to you. Basically the problem lies in the trouble ICM has when stacks are very short compared to the blinds. [/ QUOTE ] wanna fill the rest of us in too? [/ QUOTE ] Well it's more that I just didn't want to type it out rather then keeping a secret or something. Does SNGPT consider the order of blind movement around the table and factor that into their stack equity? I didn't think it did but I could be wrong, that alone would easily be enough to make my point. [/ QUOTE ] im pretty certain it doesnt.. it takes the current situation and has no concept of future blind movement, etc. and yes, that alone should make yer point. holla
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10-03-2005, 02:33 PM
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Re: SNGPT says to push this
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm unsure of what the right answer is (although I've given my opinion), but if this is a fold as many of you are advocating, where does the discrepancy between your desired action and the sngpt results come from? [/ QUOTE ] it might be because sngpt is not the all-knowing oracle. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there would still be a reason it "is not the all-knowing orcale" and improperly computed this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Give me a call today and I'll explain it to you. Basically the problem lies in the trouble ICM has when stacks are very short compared to the blinds. [/ QUOTE ] wanna fill the rest of us in too? [/ QUOTE ] Well it's more that I just didn't want to type it out rather then keeping a secret or something. Does SNGPT consider the order of blind movement around the table and factor that into their stack equity? I didn't think it did but I could be wrong, that alone would easily be enough to make my point. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah...good point. It doesnt. When blinds are this high, I like to think of equity going around the table like a "wave". You are at the crest when you are UTG...meaning your cash equity is a little higher. ICM calcs dont see this distortion.
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