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K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
This is CO's first hand at the table.
UTG+1 is 33/9/1.1 after 82 hands. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. <font color="#0000FF">The table had been really quite good, and I guess the limp was my way of celebrating that.</font> [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Flop: (8.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls. Turn: (7.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks. <font color="#0000FF">Well, hmm. This doesn't happen at 3/6.</font> River: (7.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises . . .</font> <font color="#0000FF">I don't checkraise the river enough. (That's my excuse.)</font> I'm thinking there may be a lot of things to criticize in this hand. |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
If the turn is a missed c/r I like it as much as I like the river. I'm not sure I like:
1. Pre-flop 2. The flop-c/r has the tendency to fold hands you'd like to call. I guess maybe you can justify it with the overcard though. |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
Closing the action I would have check/called the flop.
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
As long as you were raising the turn, that's good. I think the flop is going to get 3-bet a not-insignificant amount of the time, but if that lets you fold out K9 or AT and buy your kings, then I like it - depends on how much of a donk the UTG limper is.
River is good. An aggressive villain will value bet a J or Q here a lot, and most pay your raise off. -d |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
[ QUOTE ]
If the turn is a missed c/r I like it as much as I like the river. [/ QUOTE ] I hadn't decided whether I was checkraising a turn bet or not. (That was me: acting without a plan.) Probably I wasn't. The flop 3-bet intimidated me, and I figured I must be up against, you know, one of the 6 available combinations of KQ, if not something better [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]. (We really need an eye-rolling emoticon, by the way. I think Clarkmeister pointed that out once.) I figured if I donked the turn, CO would raise only if he had me beat. And I thought if I checked, he'd bet AQ anyway. Do you really like the river? Or do you dislike both a turn and river checkraise? [ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like: 1. Pre-flop 2. The flop-c/r has the tendency to fold hands you'd like to call. I guess maybe you can justify it with the overcard though. [/ QUOTE ] I don't like preflop either. It was a pretty abnormal play for me. On the flop, I didn't anticipate CO's 3-bet followed by UTG+1's fold, but I guess maybe I should have. (But even if the action following the checkraise just went call, call, I'm not sure it's so great.) |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
Preflop - Fold. The problem here I think is exactly what happened. With 4 people left to act, the chance of a raise when you need to limp is too great.
Flop - Bet. There were 2 checks in front and the aggressor behind. What if he wants a free card? Your intended result worked out fine, but I wouldn't be inclined to take the chance. That's just me. Turn - Bet. Ah, yes. There it is. The free card. River - Bet. That's how I would have played it, FWIW. Onaflag......... |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
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I think the flop is going to get 3-bet a not-insignificant amount of the time, but if that lets you fold out K9 or AT and buy your kings, then I like it - depends on how much of a donk the UTG limper is. [/ QUOTE ] Well, yeah, there is that. Even if the checkraise doesn't end up actually being for value, it could at least improve my chances of winning the pot. [ QUOTE ] River is good. An aggressive villain will value bet a J or Q here a lot, and most pay your raise off. -d [/ QUOTE ] So we're thinking maybe he checked with outs on the turn with, for instance, AJ, I take it. |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
I think it's more that he's weak and got scared of the K on the turn and wanted to induce a bluff on the river.
Problem being that this board had about a million draws that he would have let draw for free. (As I don't think he has a T) -d |
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
Showing that K8s must have done wonders for your table image.
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Re: K8s -- If I played ANY street correctly, let me know
[ QUOTE ]
This is CO's first hand at the table. UTG+1 is 33/9/1.1 after 82 hands. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. <font color="#0000FF">The table had been really quite good, and I guess the limp was my way of celebrating that.</font> [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Flop: (8.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bad cr, you're probably behind to someone and you'd rather get everyone to call and build a pot, with the aggressor to your left. If you hit, you can c/r the field for two bets. [ QUOTE ] Turn: (7.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks. [/ QUOTE ] Bet. [ QUOTE ] <font color="#0000FF">Well, hmm. This doesn't happen at 3/6.</font> River: (7.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises . . .</font> <font color="#0000FF">I don't checkraise the river enough. (That's my excuse.)</font> [/ QUOTE ] River is good. |
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