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I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
If I'm the preflop raiser, which seems to be most of the time I see a flop, my default play is to bet or raise unless I have a specific reason not to. I think I need to get better at finding those reasons.
Here are four hands out of my last 100. If you bet or raise, what do you do if you get raised or reraised? Party Poker 1/2 6 max Hold'em Converted w/ PonksSaver: http://www.pokermentor.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=510 - - - HAND 1- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is UTG with <font color="red">9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> (4 Players) <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, 2 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, BB calls, Flop: (4.50 SB) <font color="blue">T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) BB <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">???</font> - - - HAND 2- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is UTG+1 with <font color="black">T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (6 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, 3 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, Flop: (5.50 SB) <font color="green">8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">???</font> - - - HAND 3- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is BB with <font color="red">A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (3 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, SB <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls, Flop: (4.00 SB) <font color="black">7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) SB <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">???</font> - - - HAND 4- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is Button with <font color="red">A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (5 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, BB calls, Flop: (4.50 SB) <font color="blue">K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">???</font> |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
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If I'm the preflop raiser, which seems to be most of the time I see a flop, my default play is to bet or raise unless I have a specific reason not to. [/ QUOTE ] Can you elaborate on this? What are you looking for to tell you not to bet/raise? |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
I definitely would not raise with K8s UTG, way too easially dominated
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
You need reads to play all these hands properly.
Hand 1: I might peel, or fold. Raising is only against ultra lag opponents who will bet with anything if they think you don't have a pair. Hand 2: Position sucks, but flop usually misses villain. Bet. Hand 3: This is why I like 3-betting here against a normal SB (ie sb raises enough), takes control of the hand and makes it easier to play. But I fold the flop in your hand. Hand 4: Really obvious continuation bet (without a read). Betting is correct against most opponents even with a read. |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
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I definitely would not raise with K8s UTG, way too easially dominated [/ QUOTE ] He's in the CO (4-handed game). It's a 4-handed game. Domination is not very important short-handed (especially when you are opening the pot). And, the hand was K9s not K8s. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
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If I'm the preflop raiser, which seems to be most of the time I see a flop, my default play is to bet or raise unless I have a specific reason not to. I think I need to get better at finding those reasons. Here are four hands out of my last 100. If you bet or raise, what do you do if you get raised or reraised? Party Poker 1/2 6 max Hold'em Converted w/ PonksSaver: http://www.pokermentor.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=510 - - - HAND 1- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is UTG with <font color="red">9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> (4 Players) <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, 2 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, BB calls, Flop: (4.50 SB) <font color="blue">T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) BB <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">???</font> - - - HAND 2- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is UTG+1 with <font color="black">T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (6 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, 3 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, Flop: (5.50 SB) <font color="green">8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">???</font> - - - HAND 3- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is BB with <font color="red">A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (3 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, SB <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls, Flop: (4.00 SB) <font color="black">7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="green">T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) SB <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">???</font> - - - HAND 4- - - PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is Button with <font color="red">A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (5 Players) 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, BB calls, Flop: (4.50 SB) <font color="blue">K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">???</font> [/ QUOTE ] 1: Fold/call a weak or overly aggressive player 2:bet/fold 3:Fold. Three betting preflop is worth a thought. 4: bet/fold These are pretty standard I think. |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
I'd bet 2 and 4 just because you are heads up, have initiative, and could very well win right here. 1 and 3 are easy folds for me, especially #3 with the preflop raiser betting again.
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
1. fold preflop, fold flop (I raise KTs+)
2. Bet flop. 3. Fold or 3bet preflop (I lean toward fold), fold flop. 4. Bet flop. |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
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1. fold preflop, fold flop (I raise KTs+) 2. Bet flop. 3. Fold or 3bet preflop (I lean toward fold), fold flop. 4. Bet flop. [/ QUOTE ] Hand 3: So you are consistently folding A5o in the big blind vs the small blind in a 3-handed poker game? |
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Re: I think I am too aggressive on the flop (1/2 6 max)
in a nutshell
1: fold 2: bet 3: fold (raise or fold preflop) 4: bet 1, 2, and 4 are played fine preflop. some of you have no idea if you fold K9s utg 4 handed... |
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