O8 short handed starting reqs

Been playing a lot of shorthanded (3-6 players) O8 of late and am often tempted by hands like QJ34 double suited. How few players do you need to be against for this to be a playable hand? Three handed I give it a go. More than that I'm happy to play get it in the blinds, but worry about putting in a full bet.


Also tempting is any suited ace with any other card 8 or lower. How few players for a hand like AT86, suited ace.


I realize short-handed is often more about making moves with nothing, but still you can't bluff every hand, unless they let you.