Overpair or set on one tone flop???

wegs the wegs · #1 08-03-2005, 11:04 AM

I've been struggling lately playing sets or overpairs without a match on a flop that has only one suit. Overbet the flop to eliminate the several possible flush draws? That just lets me bet into the made flush every now and then. If I play it hard on the flop and get called... do I bet hard on the turn? Bet it light and hope to boat? If you have any suggestions on how you play a one suit board with a solid hand, please let me know because I keep losing money in situations like these.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) converter

Hero ($66)
UTG ($44.15)
UTG+1 ($25.60)
MP1 ($24.50)
MP2 ($68.15)
CO ($40)
Button ($47)
SB ($105.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $12, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $10, MP1 calls $10, SB calls $10.

Flop: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB calls $20.

Turn: ($89) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $34 (All-In), SB calls $34.

River: ($157) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $157

Raven · #2 08-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Just go all-in on the flop, even if someone already have the flush you are correct to draw for the full. You have to bet 54 $ in a pot of 49 $.

BirdieLongSocks · #3 08-03-2005, 11:28 AM

Push flop.

You cant make a smaller bet, and you dont whant A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] catching that last diamond. You will get paid by smaller sets, and maybee some AA/KK with a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

swolfe · #4 08-03-2005, 12:04 PM

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Push flop.

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yes. it's a PSB.

BirdieLongSocks · #5 08-03-2005, 12:14 PM

PSB?

swolfe · #6 08-03-2005, 12:20 PM

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PSB?

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pot-sized bet

BirdieLongSocks · #7 08-03-2005, 12:23 PM

thank you

wegs the wegs · #8 08-03-2005, 12:12 PM

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Push flop.

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Does this hold true if I have a deeper stack? Or if opponents have bigger stacks to match?

BirdieLongSocks · #9 08-03-2005, 12:15 PM

In this case with this much already in you haft to have several very deep stacks to not make this a push.

djoyce003 · #10 08-03-2005, 12:17 PM

it really depends on the hand, but in this example with 4 people seeing the flop, the likelihood of a flush is higher. Given your hand though, you have odds at the full pretty much anyways because he doesn't always have the flush. If it's headsup this is much different because the likelihood of the flush is much less. If you lose, that's poker.