Wanna play hold em: stick to BRAM games, forget internet

[ADAMtheEXPERT]

Ok, you 2+2 users are now very lucky. For some reason, ATE's brother wanted to reply to some post here, and left the screen open. So, ATE decided to grace this board, with my presence.

Ok, for those who have not heard of me, let's have an introduction. First, let me preface this article, by saying that yes, I understand that many of you will not wish to accept the facts of Adam the Expert, but they remain true nonetheless.

Ok, here goes. For two years now, I have been giving the world the best and most accurate poker advice, on other sites. And, have done so, FOR FREE. Kinda like a hobby of mine. Yeah, yeah, you won't want to believe this, but as you read my material, you will realize that it's true.

Ok, first off, know this truth: ATE is by far, the number one authority in the world, in the subject of poker. Yeah, Mr. S and Mr. M who run this site, can offer training in the theorictical side of poker, but most of their stuff has little application in the real world of poker, especially as it's played today. Still, ATE believes it's very important to read their stuff, to get an idea of the theory behind makeing workable poker strategies, based on the way poker is ACTUALLY played, not just how some "experts" think it SHOULD be played.

Ok, now I've played for 18 years now, and beaten every game that there was, and currently ,IS

you name it, I've played it, and can discuss most expertly, on a very sophtisticated level, and can also tailor my writings, for the newcomer.

In addition to being a pro and semi-pro, I was also, and stil occasionally deal the game. I've been a corporation player, propisition player, house player, and also casino CHEF.

Any game, any limit, and ATE will tell you how to play, to be a winning player.

I have, and continue to play all games, from .25-.50 through 30-60. No limit, up to 2000 buy in, sam for pot limit

hold em, stud stud hi low, razz omaha omaha high low omaha with five cards six card hi low stud draw, hi low draw hi low draw no qualifier hi low stud no qualifier lowball, raise blind lowball triple draw lowball.
heck, even anaconda and criss cross.

The range of games and limits that I continue to play, gives me a very good feel for how the games are being played. While some of the "big three" authors have SOME good things to say, the fact that the "famous" guys don't play the games that the average person plays, makes ATE way more qualifited to discuss the matters.

OK, here are the rules: You can ask questions, request specific articles, and I will write them. Providing that you dont ask me to give away my top secrets.

I am the number one authority in the world, BY FAR, in the subject of omaha, especially hi low. eVEN MARK Gregorick, voted number one player, has quoted me, and likes and respects my works, on the subject of omaha high low. Heck, even those who HATE MY GUTS, still acknowledge my mastery of the subject of omaha.

But, I do not, and WILL NOT write in the manner you wish me to. I don't use profanity, but I also do not care a hoot about spelling, or punctuation. The concept being: you are getting the top master of poker information, for FREE My books, were sold only to private collections, not published. I make about one hundred dollars a month, ONLY by giving private lessons. I should be RICH, like some of those who have worthless books (such as MOneymaker) and many of the other BOGUS writers out there.

Yet, I make NOTHING. So, I do NOT comply or capitulate to any standards of writing, except my own: I write as I please

Also, spelling and such takes time, and I'd rather asnwer a question, than take the time to woryy about silly things, such as spelling.


Also, you must respond, and say how much you liked my articles, and when you are helped by my GENIUS information, I want to hear about that too.

Pretty good deal, HUH!

Oh, by the way, almost everything I write, is based on my own experiences in the games. In the rare event, where something comes from a source other than ATE, I will clearly stipulate.


OK, on to today's article:

Now, those who know ATE know that I hate hold em. It was invented, to benefit only a specific few, mainly those who are in the business of spreading the game. It offers very very little skill, and way way waaaaaaay too much luck. Anyone who says otherwise, either does'nt know what they are talking about, or is a SHILL for the casino industry, or both. All other games, both past and present, offer much more skill.

But, that doe'nst mean that it's not beatable, but ONLINE is not the place to play this game, for two main reasons

(1) The main skill of hold em, is being able to read one's opponents. without seeing the opponent, their mannerisms, age and demographic group, one cannot make a read, and must rely on player notes, to have any idea of how they play.

This is very bad JUJU! Hold em, just does not play well, on the internet. The big trick to being a winning hold em player is WINNING POTS, WHERE YOU HAVE NOTHING. This includes pickin' up a pot, where no one has anything, and also (very important) picking off a bluffer, where you have very little, but read your opponent for a bluff.

Very hard to do, UNLESS YOU JUST MAKE A LUCKY guess, on the online format.

The very very best games for online play, are those that are "mechanical" I.E. based mainly on the cards you have, or see(as in the case of hi low stud) rather than having to know how your opponents play.

so, omaha hi low, and hi low stud, are the best to play

WITHOUT QUESTION!! ! ! ! ! ! !

Pot limit omaha, whether hi or hi low, at any size is by LEAPS AND BOUNDS the best thing to play

Not only becuause these are largely mechanical games, but also it's what is attracking the live ones.

(2) Hold em, especially limit ESPECIALLY LIMIT just do not attrackt very many live ones. because: the two main things that attrackt live ones to limit hold em DO NOT EXIST ONLINE !!!1

These are Jackpots, and large pots, (in terms of the QUANTITY of chips in the pot) yeah, I know that "poopy" poker has a large jackpot, but the qualification is just too hard to hit, and even total GIFTO players, know that's it's for all intensive purposes IMPOSSIBLE to hit.

Also, live ones are attracked to huge qualtities of chips in the pot. Ever see the pots in LA!! ATE played in a game, last year, where one pot had SIX RACKS of chips in it.

(Ed note: a "rack" for you online players, consists of 100 chips)

Don't you just love HOW ate gives those cute lil' explainations?

Oh yeah, they love to scoop 'em in, stack 'em up, run their fingers through 'em see the dealer have to make five or six SHOVES to push 'em all over.

Makes a huge difference.

AND DON'T ANY OF YOU INTERNET NEWCOMER'S PLUCKIN' DARE TO TRY TO CONTADICT ATE ON THIS.

If you ain't been there, dealt that (an ATE origianal term)
or been there, played that. Pleasssssse don't try to comment. YES! it makes a huge, huge difference.

Example: there used to be 5-10 hold em, in every los angeles club. about 10 year ago, they swithed to 6 and 12

5-10 was historically a TOTAL ROCK GARDEN (Ed note "rock garden" is a very very tight game)

Why? well mostly because it was the only game (except 1-2) that had a one chip, two chip betting structure.

You could take in a 200 buck pot, and there was only 40 chips in it, NOT MUCH FUN, IF YOUR A LIVE ONE THAT LIKES BIGGGGGGG POTS!!

So, 6-12, with it's three chip, six chip structure, has been the game ever since AND THE ACTION IS MUCH MUCH BETTER.


There you have it, online hold em, not only is not really suited for online poker play, but does not offer the necessary elements to attrackt live ones.

My buddy, Vending machine Robert, just lost 700 dollars, in one pot of 9-18 hold em!!! Yes, 700 dollars.

As you might be able to tell, the sucker live one got his one card out, on the river, after putting in over 600 bucks in raises on the turn.

Robert now wants to take a YEAR off poker for this, because while he's a winning player (and one of the many colorful characters ATE uses in his stories, to illustrate my points)
he's also a SNOTTY BRAT.

He makes about 30 grand a year, PaRT time, playing the 9-18 games of los angles.

so now, he's gonna lose 31 grand, insted of just the money in the pot.

the point is:

(a) any place where there are players stupid enough to put in two racks of chips, with second set, IS A PLACE YOU WANT TO PLAY

(B) even more important: Because the GREEDY, SNOTTY-BASS online sites, change the rules of poker, to suit their own financial needs,

had this been an online game, Robert would have been cheated out of 31 raises, because of the stupid, selfish rule that limits raises, even when heads up.

Even though he "lost" the pot, we who apply poker theory correctly know that he actually GAINED roughly 98% of the opponents money, in LONGTERM expectation, as with one out, the guy only had a little over 2% chance to win.

Yet, in online poker, it would have been over at 4 bets.



Give it a try, if you ain't 'a ever played in a BRAM game

(Ed note "BRAM" is ATE's way of saying "brick and morter"

I always come up with my own expressions, I don't like to use non-original material.


Ok, you can send me a PM if you want an article. or, just make a post, and put my name in the title, hopefully I'll see it.


Oh, by the way Mr "S" the moderator, let's not get all jealous, and edit my post. ATE is a major draw to a site, whether you like 'em or not.


Adam, the helpful Genius

[klagett]

Thanks

[ipp147]

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you name it, I've played it, and can discuss most expertly, on a very sophtisticated level, and can also tailor my writings, for the newcomer.

In addition to being a pro and semi-pro, I was also, and stil occasionally deal the game. I've been a corporation player, propisition player, house player, and also casino CHEF.

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I have a question.

What meal should I prepare and consume before a big tournament. Lets assume the tournament will run for 5+ hours?

thanks in advance

[ADAMtheEXPERT]

Hmmm, since you actaully mentioned the length of the event, I'm putting you on a serious question, and not just trying to poke fun of good ole' ATE

Anyway, this issue came up before, in an article I wrote about helping people prepare for the "big one"

Having access to the right food(s) is an essential element of winning tournament play. Often, the dinner break is of insufficient time, especially with hundreds or even thousands of players all tryin' to eat at the same time. Thus, it's a good idea to "roll your own"

there are three main considerations, when deciding what to eat, prior to tournament play:

(1) medical considerations, does the individual have special needs, such as diabetes or hypoglacemia? If so, you'd better make sure these needs are taken care of. Do certain foods, tend to make you sleepy? give you "gas" or the "d" word? better avoid 'em.
Avoid foods, that has a high-probability to make you sick
Turkey, is the number one most easily spoiled food. Shrimp, is anoth big one. Improperly prepard, you may find yourself in the john, RALPHIN' instead of at the table, PLAYIN'

Foods containin' bones, should also be avoided like the plague. ATE once delivered a three hour lecture, on kitchen safefy, and the issue of bone-in foods, was discussed. In ATE cuisine, there are very very few bones, and when there are: they are BIG and easily identifyable.

YOu don't want to be a breakin' a tooth, just before a big event that you've already paid for.


(2) Filling. Prepare a meal, that is totally filling, and that will satisfy your hunger, for many hours to come. Also, ATe would suggest you bring your own snack, something not easily perishable. If you have a sandwhich, don't have mayo, or an easily perishable meat, such as turkey or tuna.

It would not be a bad idea, to have say a ham or meatloaf sandwhich, in your bag. Let your opponents use their dinner time to rush and try to find something to eat: you use your time, to review playin' habbits of your opposition, and plan strategies for after-dinner play.


(3) enjoyability! Oh yes, Virgina this is a major factor:

You want to be in as good a mood as possible. Motivate yourself! Make food, that you don't often enjoy, because you can't afford it! Think of how much you can enjoy these foods, if you win the thing.

Oh yes, spoil yourself. Set the stage for a positive frame of mind, by making the most expensive "comfort food" you can think of.

Just watch the bones, OK!


(note to Mr. S and Mr. M yeah, you may not like my style, but as you read on, you will see that: Yes, I really do know my 'stuff" and it ai'nt a come from readin' books.

I am availble, to write a couple books for your publishing company, especially on the subjects of omaha, and of course in the subject of dealing poker, which NO ONE can better teach.)

Adam


Don't you just LOVE ATE! Ok, so the third person thing is rather annoying, but it's part o' the charater, and I can't drop it

Even if I wanted to, which I don't



Adam, the helpful genius

[ipp147]

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Hmmm, since you actaully mentioned the length of the event, I'm putting you on a serious question, and not just trying to poke fun of good ole' ATE

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I think your reads need work

[ADAMtheEXPERT]

Fine. So you want to waste time, with a bogus question. All this will do, is earn you the wrath of ATE fans, who don't appreciate your wasting my time, that could have been spent on serious issues. So you pulled a fast one, SO WHAT. Someone will make use of the answer, even if your SILLY BASS do'nt.

ATE

[bicyclekick]

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Ok, first off, know this truth: ATE is by far, the number one authority in the world, in the subject of poker. Yeah, Mr. S and Mr. M who run this site, can offer training in the theorictical side of poker, but most of their stuff has little application in the real world of poker, especially as it's played today. Still, ATE believes it's very important to read their stuff, to get an idea of the theory behind makeing workable poker strategies, based on the way poker is ACTUALLY played, not just how some "experts" think it SHOULD be played.

Ok, now I've played for 18 years now, and beaten every game that there was, and currently ,IS

Any game, any limit, and ATE will tell you how to play, to be a winning player.

I have, and continue to play all games, from .25-.50 through 30-60. No limit, up to 2000 buy in, sam for pot limit


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For some reason the #1 authorty can only give advice up to 30/60. Lol.

[ADAMtheEXPERT]

Look, DIPSTICK, learn to read. Currently, ATE plays up to 30-60, I never said I couldn't advise, on bigger.

Also, your SNOTTY additude, reflects a total ignorance: The level of game someone plays, usually has NOTHING to do with their ability.

You take some CLOWN, such as T.K., who just HAPPENS to win a RCC (relativly close confrontation) and now he has the bucks for 400-800

Conversly, many of the best players in history, have personal, mental, and/or substance abuse problems, which cause them to be almost always BROKE

If you had ANY knowledge, WHATSOEVER, you would know this.

I guess this site also has many people, who suffer from:

SELECTIVE READING ABILITY. Did you see ATE say that he was the best PLAYER in the world? Nooooooooo, you DID NOT>

Everyone knows, that ATE's claim to fame, is in the results of my STUDENTS. Since the death of my wife, in 1992 (when I was a full time professional) I have not been able to play well, MOST OF THE TIME.

This does not, however, stop me from teaching others, to get rich.

My best student, who I call "Nice Guy, Jewish Surname" (Ed note: NGJS, is one of the best players in the world, most of the "name" players know him, and do business with him. But, Y'all have never heard of him, and to protect his privacy, that's the way it'll remain) Has earned MILLIONS through years of successful poker. And, even though he knows Roy Cook, and most of the "name" players, he has said that he learned more from ATE, than anyone.

I have helped so many people, earn enough through poker to live the lives they want, that ATE has lost count.

Still, you can bet that with all my physciatric problems, I still play WAYYYYYY better . . . . ThEN YOU! and that's for sure.


Also, the limit of a game, has NOTHING to do with the skill level of the players playing.

ATE has been in 1-2 games, where everyone was tough

And you think that the bigger games have better players . .

HA! HA ! HA!

Again, this is reflective of your ignorance. In fact, the opposite is true. although obviously there are some very good players in the larger games, for the most part it's just people with more money, and the live ones play MUCH worse, than even the .50-1.00 players.

So, playing a bigger game, means exactly: NOTHING.

Also, your %&@%&%&@$%&@$%king statement, suggests that 30-60 is a small game.

HA! In bram games, with the way they play in the post-moneymaker post WPT world, an ATE-trained student, can easily make a quarter millin a year, in said 30-60 games, in BRAM games, and 300-900K a year, online.

If this is small, there ain't a dog in Georgia

Next time, make sure you at least READ the ate article, and KNOW what you're talking about, before opening your YAP

[Greg J]

Seriously BK, don't you know when you are in the presence of greatness?

[Justin A]

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Also, the limit of a game, has NOTHING to do with the skill level of the players playing.

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You hear that BK? You should really stick to what you have experience with. Obviously ATE has superior knowledge about this.

ATE,
Why do you play .25/.50? Is it because you like to test yourself against the toughest players?