MLB All Star Game Final Vote Candidates

[The Armchair]

For the AL, it is a choice out of five batters.
For the NL, all five are pitchers.

Does anyone else think that's stupid?

[pryor15]

i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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jeter has more intangibles in his pinkie finger than hunter has in his whole body.

[pryor15]

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i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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jeter has more intangibles in his pinkie finger than hunter has in his whole body.

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so? it'd still be nice to see someone other than jeter in the all-star game

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i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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jeter has more intangibles in his pinkie finger than hunter has in his whole body.

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so? it'd still be nice to see someone other than jeter in the all-star game

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[pryor15]

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i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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jeter has more intangibles in his pinkie finger than hunter has in his whole body.

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so? it'd still be nice to see someone other than jeter in the all-star game

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sorry. didn't catch the sarcasm.

side note: does anyone else find it interesting that francona didn't add any of his players to the team as other AL managers have been prone to do. let's just say that if previous standards had held, wakefield and trot nixon might be on the team

[Matt Williams]

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i think we should organize an anti-jeter vote. where we all vote for the same guy. i nominate torii hunter.

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jeter has more intangibles in his pinkie finger than hunter has in his whole body.

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Coming from a Boston fan, that is quite the compliment. Jeter really is the man though. Is there ANYONE that is more feared than Jeter in October? It cracks me up when I read on ESPN.com about how Jeter is overrated and sucks defensively. Especially Rob Neyer, he seems to dislike Jeter for some reason. But yet, anyone that actually counts for an opinion (managers, players, scouts, ect.) will tell you there is no one better than Jeter when the pressure is on. But guys like Neyer and Bill James will say Jeter sucks. I remember one time when Neyer said it wasn't possible for a .275 hitter to become a .350 hitter in October. Umm.. anyone know of Reggie Jackson? Derek Jeter? Jim Leyritz? Lenny Dykstra? Carlos Beltran? Not to mention pitchers like Don Larsen, Orel Hershiser, Mariano Rivera, El Duke, David Wells ect. Some players can lift their games when the pressure is the highest. Jeter is one of them.

[Jack of Arcades]

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t cracks me up when I read on ESPN.com about how Jeter is overrated and sucks defensively. Especially Rob Neyer, he seems to dislike Jeter for some reason. But yet, anyone that actually counts for an opinion (managers, players, scouts, ect.) will tell you there is no one better than Jeter when the pressure is on.

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Um, okay. So Neyer and many others say Jeter is not a good defensively, and you counter by saying he's clutch? That's a complete non-sequitur.

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But guys like Neyer and Bill James will say Jeter sucks.

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James ranks Jeter has one of the top twenty shortstops of all time.
Neyer ranks Jeter as the top SS in NYY history and says he "made a lot of big plays in a lot of big games."

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I remember one time when Neyer said it wasn't possible for a .275 hitter to become a .350 hitter in October. Umm.. anyone know of Reggie Jackson?

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Career .278 hitter in the postseason.

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Derek Jeter?

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Jim Leyritz?

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Lenny Dykstra?

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Carlos Beltran?

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Congratulations, you named one .350 post season hitter, and he did it in 46 AB.

[Matt Williams]

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t cracks me up when I read on ESPN.com about how Jeter is overrated and sucks defensively. Especially Rob Neyer, he seems to dislike Jeter for some reason. But yet, anyone that actually counts for an opinion (managers, players, scouts, ect.) will tell you there is no one better than Jeter when the pressure is on.

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Um, okay. So Neyer and many others say Jeter is not a good defensively, and you counter by saying he's clutch? That's a complete non-sequitur.

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But guys like Neyer and Bill James will say Jeter sucks.

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James ranks Jeter has one of the top twenty shortstops of all time.
Neyer ranks Jeter as the top SS in NYY history and says he "made a lot of big plays in a lot of big games."

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I remember one time when Neyer said it wasn't possible for a .275 hitter to become a .350 hitter in October. Umm.. anyone know of Reggie Jackson?

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Career .278 hitter in the postseason.

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Derek Jeter?

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Jim Leyritz?

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Lenny Dykstra?

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Carlos Beltran?

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Congratulations, you named one .350 post season hitter, and he did it in 46 AB.

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I don't remember the article that Neyer was talking about how it's impossible for players to raise their game, but he did say it. He may not have used (probably didn't) the players I have, but he said you can't raise your game just because it is October. I find that to be false. If Neyer is now ranking Jeter as the top shortstop in NYY history, that is a change from how he was 2 or 3 years ago. If you read Neyer, you have to admit he is biased against the Yankees. Bill James goes by win/shares which I personally think is BS. He uses a computer to figure that out but doesn't take into account real game situations(leadership or the knack for being in the right place at the right time. Like Jeter was against Oakland in 2001. Or David Justice hitting that HR against the Indians in game 6 in 1995. Or Mark Lemke for the Braves during the '90's.). My point of the previous post is that certain players do rise to the occasion when the pressure is on especially in October.

[sam h]

All five of those guys in AL seem like better choices than Shea Hillenbrand. What's up with that one?