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#1
06-18-2005, 03:43 PM
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Learning from Entity
No, not the 2+2 PLO8 game the other nite
Entity: "I know you have the boat" Me: "pot it" Entity: "So I'll pot it" But this hand Table is relatively tight, and much softer than I expected. First foray into 1/2 at Stars, as I spend most of my time getting my butt handed to me as Party/skins. PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls. Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font> Comments? 
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#2
06-18-2005, 03:46 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
Why not just bet the flop?
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#4
06-18-2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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And wouldn't betting the flop get you more information for less money? [/ QUOTE ] If I lead, and get called all the way around the table, what do I know? Closing the action on the flop got me enough info to think I had the best hand.
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#5
06-18-2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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[ QUOTE ] And wouldn't betting the flop get you more information for less money? [/ QUOTE ]If I lead, and get called all the way around the table, what do I know? [/ QUOTE ] I'd say you know there are the following out there: A weak ace and/or a decent ace, and/or middle or bottom pair, and/or 45 or 56 for a gutshot, possibly suited for a backdoor flush draw, and/or another pair of 8s, and/or a slowplaying 33 or 77. [ QUOTE ] Closing the action on the flop got me enough info to think I had the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see how you eliminated the possibility of a weak ace or a medium ace held by a passive player.
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#6
06-18-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And wouldn't betting the flop get you more information for less money? [/ QUOTE ]If I lead, and get called all the way around the table, what do I know? [/ QUOTE ] I'd say you know there are the following out there: A weak ace and/or a decent ace, and/or middle or bottom pair, and/or 45 or 56 for a gutshot, possibly suited for a backdoor flush draw, and/or another pair of 8s, and/or a slowplaying 33 or 77. [ QUOTE ] Closing the action on the flop got me enough info to think I had the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see how you eliminated the possibility of a weak ace or a medium ace held by a passive player. [/ QUOTE ] If I lead the flop, and get raised by MP3, or c/r'd by one of the blinds, I'm drawing to 2 outs. Closing the action on the flop leads me to reason that the blinds are drawing, or have a pair smaller than mine. MP3's bet is most likely a position bet, ergo I have the best hand. This table wouldn't fall into the typical passive category. Tight yes, aggressive marginally, but players had shown that they could be pushed off marginal hands. I wouldn't make this same play at a typical party .5/1 table.
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#8
06-18-2005, 03:53 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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did u think the bet MP3 was just for position? then what cards were you looking for on the turn to gaybet? I'm still in straightforward mode, please explain [/ QUOTE ] MP3's bet smells like a position bet. The range of hand he would have limped here is large, and not many of them include and Ace. Sure Axs is possible, but as tight as this table was playing, I don't think he's limping that. As for the gaybet, I'm betting any card that doesn't pair the board if checked to.
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#9
06-18-2005, 05:44 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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MP3's bet smells like a position bet. The range of hand he would have limped here is large, and not many of them include and Ace. Sure Axs is possible, but as tight as this table was playing, I don't think he's limping that. [/ QUOTE ]I Read the thread after responding to the OP. On this kind of table I raise preflop, bet/fold the flop, bet/fold the turn, and probably bet/fold the river.
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#10
06-18-2005, 05:56 PM
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Re: Learning from Entity
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[ QUOTE ] MP3's bet smells like a position bet. The range of hand he would have limped here is large, and not many of them include and Ace. Sure Axs is possible, but as tight as this table was playing, I don't think he's limping that. [/ QUOTE ]I Read the thread after responding to the OP. On this kind of table I raise preflop, bet/fold the flop, bet/fold the turn, and probably bet/fold the river. [/ QUOTE ] you got a TomBrooklyn handle?
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