Risky play, anybody give their take on it?

[aK13]

No reads on anybody, since I’m multi-tabling cryptos without PokerTracker.

Preflop: Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, Villain calls, Hero calls, 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, BB checks, Villain bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB folds, Villain calls.

I figure I’m ahead or way behind here, so I try to narrow the field HU, and maybe pick up the pot without a showdown. I also thought it would give me a cheaper showdown in case I was behind.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks, Hero checks.

Now I pick up a flush draw, I'll take a free card.

River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain bets, Hero calls.

Damn, pretty sure I’m beat here, but the only card I’m losing to is a Q, so I guess I have to call.

Should I be trying this play every once in a while? I'm hoping the answer is yes, but I probably screwed up somewhere, so comments/suggestions/flames are welcome.

[UncleSalty]

Looks pretty good. I think I'd bet the turn and fold to a raise. You get some good information and it costs you the same as the way you played it.

[joeski19]

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Looks pretty good. I think I'd bet the turn and fold to a raise. You get some good information and it costs you the same as the way you played it.

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[aK13]

To be honest, it didn't really occur to me that I might be drawing (virtually) dead already to a bigger flush.

I like the idea of leading out on the turn, and folding to a raise, although if he smooth calls, do I bet on the river if he checks?

[scotty34]

Now that is where it gets a little tricky. If the flush card comes, I am pretty certain he will bet it (even though he doesn't know Clarkmeister's theorem). In this case I would probably call. If the flush card comes, and he checks, I think it's safe to bet this river. If no flush card comes I would check behind.

[elindauer]

If he just calls your turn bet, bet the river too, no matter what hits. He's calling down with any pair and maybe even ace high. Give him a chance to pay you off.

In microlimit games, understanding when to value bet the river is very important. Hell, the same is true in the party 15.

Good luck.
Eric

[FreakDaddy]

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Looks pretty good. I think I'd bet the turn and fold to a raise. You get some good information and it costs you the same as the way you played it.

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No taking the free card on the turn is the right play. If your club hits you probably this win hand with your flush as villian probably has Q, the club is already on the board and they would have raised with any suited high card. If the draw wasn't there, a raise here would be a good play.

On the river with a small pot it's a break even call in my estimation. Without reads on villian I call. If I had any kind of solid read I'd probably drop this hand.

[UncleSalty]

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Looks pretty good. I think I'd bet the turn and fold to a raise. You get some good information and it costs you the same as the way you played it.

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No taking the free card on the turn is the right play. If your club hits you probably this win hand with your flush as villian probably has Q, the club is already on the board and they would have raised with any suited high card

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I must respectfully disagree. The Q dropping on the turn reduces the chances villain is holding a Q, and increases the chance that we are ahead right now. We are more worried about the bigger flush possibility at this point, and I want to find out where we stand.

[tiltaholic]

i think you gotta bet that turn and call a raise (flush draw).

personally, i've taken to raising preflop after one limper, but i don't know how profitable it will turn out...

[GoHoosiers]

I'd probably bet the turn. If he's got a Q, this is where he'd raise. I also think your flop raise with two [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s may have bought you some some fold equity when the scary turn club falls.

Rich