HONOR , PROFESSIONALISM and MSSunshine

In the posting written by MS in re: to HighlandsClub yesterday, John wrote this:


"I feel that I have been down this road with PokerSpot, always awaiting for the BIG deal to go thru. I would have had none of my problems with PokerSpot, if one of the regulars at the time who were aware that no cashouts were being made had informed me of the problems with the site. "


What MS failed to mention is that he is the prop manager for HighlandsClub.


He failed not only to "inform the regulars" but also failed to inform the props that there was a problem with cashouts. He still collected time sheets, and made sure that the quite possible bogus-pay to the props were credited to the props accounts without even a warning to the props that they should only continue to prop at their own risk. As the manager of those who put their trust in him, he made no attempt to come clean with possible problems collecting not only gambling wins, but wages as well. He did nothing to protect the props time that could have been spent at other casinos where at least there is some chance of earning some money.


Time is money MS! John, you have been stealing our time for sure; whether or not Highlands has stolen the money or not is yet to be seen. You lied to us by omission. What were you trying to protect by not telling us the truth? Possibility exists that you were trying to protect your own interest at the expense of the props'. I have seen no integrity or professionalism on your part, just lies and self-serving actions.


After your posting, good luck furthering your career in management with any on-line card rooms, with having upper management trust you with any private information; good luck recruiting any props who will put their faith in your word, judgment, and the manner in which you approach problems. And you write your first posting under the guise of protecting the poker community. You are such a peice of work MS.

Unreal...thanks for the info (Cant even think of why I almost considered being a PROP at Highlands) This is very useful info.....Thanks so much!!!!


Now that I think about it.....When I first applied for the info for props at highlands and the info was sent.....I got bombarred with emails everyday for 2 weeks str8 about what my decision was going to be....LMAO is this proper behavior for the PROP industry?? lol Glad I went with my gut.....


And I thought MS SUNSHINE was a good guy?? LOL

I'm totally in shock!!!! [img]/images/wink.gif[/img]

Not surprised are you? Online roooms have many links to organized criminals.

UP TO THIS POINT I HAVE ADMIRED THE MS PERSONS AND HAVE STAUNCHLY DEFENDED THEM THINKING WHAT KIND OF SELFLESS PEOPLE THEY ARE... WILLING TO PUT IN EXTRA WORK AND SWEAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE INTERNET POKER COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE FOR US ALL. I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN CLOCKED IN THE HEAD! SCUMBAGS IS TOO NICE OF A WORD FOR THESE PEOPLE... CONARTISTS IS A BETTER TERM. NO CONSIOUNCE YOU MS SUNSHINES! OBVIOUS TO ME WHY YOU MOVED TO BUMBLEF*CK UTAH, TO RUN FROM THE PEOPLE YOU'VE SCAMMED, AND NOW YOU ARE ON THE INTERNET DOING THE SAME THING. BUILDING UP THE TRUST-- NOW YOUR COLORS ARE REALLY SHINING THROUGH, THAT WAS LOW AND DISGUSTING. I HOPE THE TWO OF YOU SKI INTO A TREE, AND YOU WON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET A FUNERAL BECAUSE ALL YOUR MONEY IS TIED UP INTO HIGHLANDS (LOL) THEY'LL HAVE TO PUT YOU TO INTO THE FIREPLACE!!!


JAIME

I have never scammed anyone in my life. I'm sure most places I have worked would be happy to have me, or my wife, back.


If I die skiing into a tree, somehow it was murder because it will not be an accident.


MS Sunshine

Okay. I'm just beginning to read some of these posts.


First, I have known John (and his wife) for many years. When he was working on the floor at a live poker room I always thought he did an excellent job, and based on his consistent performance would recommend him to anyone for cardroom management.


By the way, for those of you who have followed my writings over the years, you know that I have considered much of cardroom management to be totally incompetent. (Just to complete this thought, while it has gotten better over the years, these is still some incompetence to be weeded out.)


On the other hand, there might be some conflict here. If John was employed in a management position at Highlands, that should have been made known (and perhaps he did -- I don't read all the posts) by him on these forums as he voiced his opinion on various subjects. That is something I have been asking site representatives to do on these forums before they post.

Dear Mason,


Thank you for your defense of our reputation.


In regards to us being in a "management position" at Highland's, you can judge for yourself. Our involvement with them consisted of gathering a "team" of players who were interested in propping internet games for an hourly wage.


We "managed" the team only in the regard that we compiled weekly payroll information for our team and sent this information to Highland's. We were not involved in the management of the site in any way, nor do we have any financial investment with Highland's, other than our playing bankroll.


We were props there, just like anyone else, with full risk taken. We made the same hourly wage as the rest of the team. In regards to posting anything about Highland's, I believe the only time we mentioned the site was in direct response to someone who posted asking where we played. We responded that among other sites, we had 50% of our bankroll on Highland's. That is the extent of what we said.


As for admitting to "managing" a team there, it was part of our contract with Highland's, and our props contract, that we refer all questions regarding prop play to a floorman at Highland's. Posting that we "ran" a team of props on the site would clearly have violated this. When it was clear that Highland's could not meet their guarantees to our team, or their other customers, we then felt it pertinent to break our contract and go public.


If we violated your posting rules, which we believe are very valid, then we sincerly apologize.


MS Sunshine

As you know, I was a Highlands prop also, and together with the others started on Feb. 18. I received three reasonably timely cashout payments in February and March and a fourth on April 15. This last was the first that was late, and the first that was not for the full amount requested. I informed MS immediately.


Four days later, on April 19, after corresponding with Highlands about the matter, and after obtaining assurances that all pending cashouts would be paid on April 30, MS informed all props of the problem with late cashouts and requested everyone's feedback. He specifically warned the props that "we are not certain that this is not a delaying tactic." There was a flurry of correspondence, none of which included the accusations you've made here, and a plan of action was agreed to. I kept all this correspondence.


Accordingly, your statements that he "failed to inform the props that there was a problem with cashouts," and that "[h]e still collected time sheets, and made sure that the quite possible bogus-pay to the props were credited to the props accounts without even a warning to the props that they should only continue to prop at their own risk" are demonstrably false.


Your failure to mention the pertinent facts is telling. I think readers will judge it a more egregious act of lying "by omission" than the false accusations you've made against MS.


It obviously has not occurred to you that MS, who is owed quite a bit more than any other prop (and they owe me $4K), has put himself at financial risk for the benefit of unkown others by making this issue public. A mercenary approach would have been to hope that the next promised date would be honored, in the hopes that unwitting players would deposit enough to allow him to get paid at least something. When I discussed this with MS, he expressed his discomfort at the prospect of others being victimized while he kept silent and possibly profited thereby. In light of this, your cheap, anonymous attack on him is both dishonest and remarkably undeserved.


Chris Alger

Thank you Chris, for giving an accurate picture of the events as they happened. We enjoyed working with you, too, except that you play too tough If you changed that we would have no problems working with you in the future.


MS Sunshine