AA - monochrome flop

Scuba Chuck · #1 06-05-2005, 12:22 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter

 $33 buyin, like 3rd hand, so no reads 

SB (t770)
BB (t800) villain has KJ red 
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
Hero (t800)
CO (t2455)
Button (t775)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t60, CO calls t60, 2 folds, BB calls t45.

Flop: (t180) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t95, CO folds, BB raises to t190, Hero calls t95.

Turn: (t560) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
 Stupid Converter - BB bets 225, Hero takes time, and pushes... - BB calls

River: (t1660) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1660

 Do you play this way?

KenProspero · #2 06-05-2005, 12:29 AM

He had the flush, didn't he?

Did you have any read on BB going into the hand? If he's a rock, I'm probably folding, maniac, definately calling. But you knew that.

Sponger15SB · #3 06-05-2005, 12:33 AM

I think it is important to tell us the buy in for this tourney.

Scuba Chuck · #4 06-05-2005, 12:49 AM

Edited post. $33 buyin, no reads.

KenProspero · #5 06-05-2005, 12:58 AM

You're in a tough spot then.

What cards could Villian be holding here.

If he's a good player --

Flush
2 pair
club and a pair
Overpair

You're a big favorite to an over pair, coin flip (slight favorite?) Big underdog to anything else.

I think I probably call here, but I don't play at your stakes level, so it's an easier call for me.

AA suited · #6 06-05-2005, 01:18 AM

he cold called 3bb after 1 other caller. pocket pair and suited connectors are a possibility.

i would have folded when he check/raised. it's lvl1 and you dont have a club. pick better spots

Scuba Chuck · #7 06-05-2005, 01:25 AM

AA, I was thinking that his turn bet seemed a little heavy. I mean, if you had the flush here, wouldn't you want some action?

AA suited · #8 06-05-2005, 02:14 AM

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AA, I was thinking that his turn bet seemed a little heavy. I mean, if you had the flush here, wouldn't you want some action?

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Not if he didnt have the Ace of clubs, and thinking you might have AK since you raised 4BB preflop.

my view is dont slowplay if you don't have the nuts.

Lost my stack when i flopped a set of aces on rainbow flop. i slow played since no flush threat, not realizing that someone could have been on a straight draw.

Scuba Chuck · #9 06-05-2005, 02:19 AM

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AA, I was thinking that his turn bet seemed a little heavy. I mean, if you had the flush here, wouldn't you want some action?

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Not if he didnt have the Ace of clubs, and thinking you might be drawing with it since you raised 4BB preflop.

my view is dont slowplay if you don't have the nuts.

Lost my stack when i flopped a set of aces on rainbow flop. i slow played since no flush threat, not realizing that someone could have been on a straight draw.

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I think we've all learned a lesson like that. Here's the deal, how scared should I be in general on the turn, with a three suited flop? Let's say I knew I was ahead here, but villain had one club. Frankly, I think about these scenarios a lot. I usually fold a lot of hands here, but maybe this is a mistake.

BTW, IF there was more than one player in this pot, I'd be out FAST.

Scuba

AA suited · #10 06-05-2005, 02:30 AM

you have no reads on him, the board is scary, you dont have a club, he check raised on the flop, and yet you are confident that he doesnt have a made flush just because he bet out 40% pot on the turn?

so confident that you're willing to risk your whole tourny at lvl1 by RAISING all-in?!?

you are a better player than I am [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(well, with my current streak, i guess anyone is better than me, but you know what i mean... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )