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Old 04-29-2003, 05:12 AM
Punker Punker is offline
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Default From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

I have studified the many valuble reposne to my 32o hand from recently. Most considered that my hand was not high carded!

I have revamped my game to play the higher card, and today I played the following.

I am in the big blind, and I have been granted the

A [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img] A [img]/forums/images/icons/heart.gif[/img]

Many sense my power and fold unto the button, who bravely limps. The Small Blind also enteres and I choose to simply check and ensure a good flope.

The flope comes favorablish:

A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img] K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img]

The Small Blind now offeres a bet, which I decide to smoothflat call. The button also feels that to call.

The turn transpires a

(A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img] K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img]) K [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img]

And once again the Small Blind bets. I must flatsmooth call, and the button continues with the gambling.

The river indicates the

(A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img] K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img]) Q [img]/forums/images/icons/heart.gif[/img]

I feel confident in my hand at this juncturing, and when the Small Blind bets, I smoothraise! The button is calling, and the Small Blind now coldflatcalls.

I have won the congratulations. But am I a genius player ?
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Old 04-29-2003, 05:49 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

OK, here's what I would do differently:

Raise pre-flop.
Raise the flop.
Raise the turn.

Here's what I would do the same:

Raise the river.

Of course, once you give a little more action earlier in the hand, that will change the flow of the hand, but in general, I'd push this hand a lot harder, especially w/ straight and flush draws out there.
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Old 05-01-2003, 12:22 PM
Schmed Schmed is offline
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

I agree with the pre and flop raise but once you've made your boat isn't this a perfect time to slow play with someone else betting and another behind you that you are hoping to call? You're hoping that the guy betting has a k. He'll see you stop after raising him on the flop when the other k hits. He'll put you on a AQ or something like that and he may even reraise you when you raise on the river.

I do think that slow playing the flop like that is very dangerous because you're letting straight and flush draws draw cheaply.
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

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I do think that slow playing the flop like that is very dangerous because you're letting straight and flush draws draw cheaply.

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That's assuming that you don't smoothflat call, which of course will bring a favorablish Turn - thus leading to the flatsmooth call, which mesmerizes opponents into thinking that their 10 is good.

Punker... great post and love the lingo. You clearly have as much fun playing poker as anyone I know.
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

I like to constantly bet out with the nuts too, but sometimes when middle pair pairs and you have the nut boat, I think a profitable check raise can sometimes be made when someone else who called with a pair and a gutshow now made trips. I bet it anyway though and just hope they raise.
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Old 04-29-2003, 07:51 AM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

I agree with Ulysses here. I always get punished by playing like this in the position you are in, with a flop like that. And it's not that I've let them draw out, sometimes the flop-better will check on the turn because he's just leading out with a scary board to test you, and now I've missed a bet. This has been my most common leak as of late, missing bets in this situation. Or going for check raises that never materialize.

I'd ram this one...make all fish pay (I just wish I could practice what I'm preaching [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 04-29-2003, 10:10 AM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default Re: From the lowest of lows to the highest of highs

I would probably have raised preflop, and on the flop.

As long as you keep getting this many full hice, you are a genius.
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Old 04-29-2003, 12:01 PM
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Default Dude!

You need to post more often. You're killing me.
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Dude!

This is just about the only post on 2+2 that has ever gotten me laughing out of control...
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:36 AM
Punker Punker is offline
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Default Why oh why...!!

Well, I think I can open my brain to show my think!

When I receive the AA before any transpirations, I know I have a good hand...so I want to punish! Further, I have the fortune of almost having position!

On the flope, when the SB betts, its very excellent for me, because I can slowplay, but ensure every street is bett! With the pot at 4SB on the flope to me, I can just call, and I think the button is incorrect to call with gutshot or flush draw? So, if he (or the SB) has those hands, I can punish him on the turn!

When I fill on the turn, I still to think slowplay, is good! Now I'm hoping a spade falls on the river and he makes his flush. That way he'll bet strong and I'll beat him with my aces full! oops, sorry.

Again, because the Small Blind betts, I can still ensure that every street receives the action.

Given the board on the turn, there are so many river cards that make someone a second best hand (something like 15? maybe more!), maybe its correct to let them draw dead cheap, if it means they will pay 2 bets on the river if they get there ded. In the correct world, the button is supposed to raise the river with the broadway, and I can make the 4 bets on the river!

I thought this hand was a good idea of positional play, since due to my luck of the Small Blind betting, I can ensure all streets have action? Preflop...merely silliness from me! But after the flope, I like it!

I don't know!?!
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