How TERRIBLE is my opponent?

[Magikist]

Party 3/6. I'm in the SB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

EP limps, MP1 limps, MP2 limps, LP raises, CO cold calls, I 3-bet, EP folds, MP1 folds, EP2 calls, LP calls, CO now caps, we all call.

Flop (about 19 sb): 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I bet out, MP1 calls, LP calls, CO calls.

Turn (about 11 bb): A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]; 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I bet out, only LP calls.

River (about 13 bb): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img];5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I bet, LP calls.

He shows A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and takes down the big pot.

I thought he played it like crap and I told him so. I typed "you are a loose passive calling station. your play blows goat balls."

He disagreed with me. What do you guys think?

[Bob T.]

He might be facing a bigger Ace, but the pot is huge, so he couldn't fold. I don't think his play blew goats balls.

[ElSapo]

Well. Not really. Terrible is berating him for his play, regardless of what you think. I hope you're kidding about that bit.

On the flop he has a back-door flush draw and overcards, and he's getting about 20-1 on his call. I'd call also.

Maybe my play also... whatever it was you said.

[Lost Wages]

OK very sneaky way of getting a reply to your previous post that went unnoticed [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. "A" for originality.

Lost Wages

[Magikist]

haha, well it's no longer sneaky now that you've brought it up!

[Runner Runner]

"loose passive calling station"

Loose - Let me see he called on the flop with two overcards and a backdoor flush draw getting over 20 to 1. Makes sense to me.

Passive - He raised preflop after a couple of limpers with AJs. He didn't raise you on the turn or river because he could of been against a bigger ace. Makes sense to me.

Calling station - He's getting huge pot odds on every call he makes. What do you want him to do, he sure can't fold. The only time he can make a case for folding is preflop if he knows you or the guy who limp re-raised and trusts one of you to have him dominated, I would not make that fold against players I didn't know. The flop turn and river are automatic calls for him.

I disagree with you as well. He played it fine. If you are going to be a jerk and chastise someone for their play, I am sure you can find much worse plays then this at Party 3-6. Why bother though, do you want your opponents playing better?

[Magikist]

If he thought he was facing a bigger ace, how could he call that flop bet (with pressure from behind from the capping CO!)?

Then, when he hits the ace, which may or may not be a clean out, doesn't he need to raise for information and protect his hand?

[ElSapo]

Funny... I see it now.

You know, I always wonder about these posts when 2+2ers mix things up. B/c you stare at it, you think, "I didn't think the play was bad and he doesn't usually comment on.."

...nice hand; nicer post.

[Bob T.]

I would be happy to get to the showdown for two big bets with this hand. If someone else puts in the bets, I am not going to raise, because I really won't like my hand if it is threebet.

[Magikist]

OK, so my play screams big pocket pair, right? What about CO capping preflop? He could have a bigger ace. The Ace of hearts might not be an out. His outs are dirtier than an old man's depends.

On the turn he gets maybe the perfect card. Just calling down is not despicable?