Flopped nuts, bastard turn...

alright kids, solids is my name, NL100 6max on empire is my game...

no solid read on villain. seems donkish, untricky, and a calling station. has 140 in front of him, hero covers.

hero's table image is semi-lag. raise preflop, always a continuation, etc.

hero is dealth [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 in BB

preflop: 2 limpers, SB completes, hero checks

flop: [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J (~4 in pot)

SB checks, hero checks, MP (villain) to $5, 2 folds around to hero, who raises to $20, villain thinks, then calls

turn: [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 (~45)
hero leads for $25, villain calls

river: blank
hero checks, villain goes all in, hero folds

how's my line? i could've checked the turn, but figured it would be too much of a vag move. also figured that i would only be called with a better hand, like the flush, but then again, this is nl100, meaning he could have KQ, tptk, J10, etc.

let me know.

--solids

If you bet that turn, bet closer to 2/3 pot to make it believable. Otherwise standard in my book.

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If you bet that turn, bet closer to 2/3 pot to make it believable. Otherwise standard in my book.

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i don't think a donk can truly distinguish between a $25 and $30 bet as being "believable" or not, IMO.

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If you bet that turn, bet closer to 2/3 pot to make it believable. Otherwise standard in my book.

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i don't think a donk can truly distinguish between a $25 and $30 bet as being "believable" or not, IMO.

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I think you would be surprised. 25 into a 45 "feels" like half the pot, and donks are playing by "feel". 30 into a 45 feels a lot bigger, even if it technically is only 20% more.

Anyway, it's live, and looks are all that matter. Make your bet look strong.

[DoomSlice]

I think you folded a winner.

[PoBoy321]

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If you bet that turn, bet closer to 2/3 pot to make it believable. Otherwise standard in my book.

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I don't get it. What are you trying to make him believe?

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I don't get it. What are you trying to make him believe?

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That the club helped hero.

[PoBoy321]

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If you bet that turn, bet closer to 2/3 pot to make it believable. Otherwise standard in my book.

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I don't get it. What are you trying to make him believe?

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That the club helped hero.

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But why would that matter? If the villain is worried that the club helped the hero, then it means that he doesn't have a flush. If he doesn't have a flush, then hero already has the best hand.

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I think you folded a winner.

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what hand do you put villain on?

[PoBoy321]

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I think you folded a winner.

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what hand do you put villain on?

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JT or 77.