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Folded QQ on the flop
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds, SB folds. Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls. Final Pot: 9 BB Just to make sure I'm not losing it. The raiser is very loose preflop and semi passive postflop. The other one is a LAP as well. Against 4 oponents I dont think I should call or raise. Thoughts? |
#2
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
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The raiser is very loose preflop and semi passive postflop. The other one is a LAP as well. Against 4 oponents I dont think I should call or raise. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] Looks like a good fold to me |
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
I will be interested in seeing this posted out, I personally think the folds weak against 2 laps, who could have about damn anything including lo2pr. I would raise this, check the turn, fold river bet UI prob.
But hey, maybe this is one of my leaks>? [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] cdl |
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
Ok so you think that your opponents are loose and passive, but that doesnt mean that one of them definitely has an A.
BB could have been betting the flop with a flush or open-ended straight draw as well as with Ax. And UTG could have been calling with either the flush or straight draw, or middle or bottom pair. I think that you played your hand too weakly here and that you should have raised on the flop. If BB 3-bet, then consider making a loose call to see what falls on the turn. If BB bets again on the turn (after your miracle Q did not fall), I think you should fold. |
#5
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
i tend to favor a raise on the flop...
i'd need a very strong read on his passivity to fold that flop. |
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
The only issue for me here is UTG.
After his check, I count SB as out of the hand. (for now) The BB doesnt have to have an A here. And I'd need a dead solid read on UTG only limping/calling with an A here. A majority of the time, the presence of one overcard is not enough to scare me off of a large PP. |
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
But....but,the pot is big blah blah blah you have to protect your hand blah blah blah they don't have that ace those loose PASSIVE fish blah blah blah.
I CAP this flop you WEAK-TIGHT NIT! |
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
So which is it?
Your post is contradictory. Do you see why? WEAK, yes TIGHT, no NIT, not yet |
#9
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Re: Folded QQ on the flop
I would raise this flop, there are straight and flush draws possible.
If the flop were A72r I think I could find a fold but not on this flop. |
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