KK vs Tourney Chip Leader in 11r

Double Eagle · #1 06-15-2005, 01:44 AM

I've been at this table for 3 orbits and haven't played a hand. Still fairly early with 300 or so left and avg at 20k. Chip leader was very active. Does anyone hate this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t25980)
MP1 (t91470)
Hero (t23257)
CO (t30629)
Button (t33435)
SB (t8360)
BB (t17372)
UTG (t44980)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to t2400, Hero calls t2400, 4 folds.

Flop: (t5150) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets t2400, Hero raises to t9000, MP1 raises to t89020, Hero calls t11807 (All-In).

Turn: (t114977) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t114977) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t114977

billyjex · #2 06-15-2005, 02:21 AM

I hate just calling his raise here with so many people behind you. People are much more likely to call 2400 w/ their big stacks and the looser play that happens in these tourneys.

I would rereaise to 6000-8000 or so.

Double Eagle · #3 06-15-2005, 10:51 AM

I was actually hoping to induce a squeeze play type move behind me, but maybe thats a bit of Fancy Play Syndrome....

durron597 · #4 06-15-2005, 10:54 AM

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I hate just calling his raise here with so many people behind you. People are much more likely to call 2400 w/ their big stacks and the looser play that happens in these tourneys.

I would rereaise to 6000-8000 or so.

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Given that you didn't, your line on the flop is fine.

SossMan · #5 06-15-2005, 12:49 PM

I like it.

PrayingMantis · #6 06-15-2005, 01:07 PM

There are other options of course, but I don't see any problem with this one.

Double Eagle · #7 06-15-2005, 01:25 PM

I posted the hand specifically because it was up against such a huge stack, one who could presumably have opened with a wide range of hands.

I'm kind of torn between throwing in a standard reraise which will take down the pot a good percentage of the time but will be very unlikely to double me up unless he has AK/QQ or maybe JJ. Interested to hear what 11r veterans like Chief have to say about taking the higher variance line in spots like this when it's still relatively early....

SossMan · #8 06-15-2005, 01:56 PM

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I posted the hand specifically because it was up against such a huge stack, one who could presumably have opened with a wide range of hands.

I'm kind of torn between throwing in a standard reraise which will take down the pot a good percentage of the time but will be very unlikely to double me up unless he has AK/QQ or maybe JJ. Interested to hear what 11r veterans like Chief have to say about taking the higher variance line in spots like this when it's still relatively early....

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you need to get chips at some point. if he's been active, you have a good chance of getting the chips in on the flop with one pair and still having the best hand.

SpeakEasy · #9 06-15-2005, 02:16 PM

I would re-raise to 5500 or 6000 pre-flop. As played on the flop, I don't see any problems. If he his a set, oh well.

baronzeus · #10 06-15-2005, 03:11 PM

I think I might fold the flop here. The only hands you are ahead of is AJ, QQ, and MAYBE a flush semi-bluff/straight semi-bluff depending on the type of player he is.

Hands you are behind: AA, JJ, TT, AJs (spades), JTs/JTo

I'm guessing you lost this hand, based on the turn and the river. But this is just my read.