Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-13-2005, 12:41 AM
StacysMom StacysMom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: THX BARN!
Posts: 214
Default Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

So I decided to take a random shot at 15 as I plan on moving up relatively soon. How do you like it up to here?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (17 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets...</font>

Thanks,

StacysMom
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-13-2005, 12:46 AM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Urbana, IL (UIUC)
Posts: 268
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

I don't like the turn bet. I think it's a fairly standard check...

John Feeney talks about bad plays good players make such as semi-bluffing into calling stations. I think this is a perfect example of that.

Also, too often you will get c/r'd be be forced to call 1 extra bet.

I think you are behind often enough here to check instead of betting into a field of 3.

-Craig
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-13-2005, 12:51 AM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 5
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

Any stats or reads on UTG? Its kinda scary when he limp-reraises all of you in that position. Given that against a lot of players I might be expecting to be up against something like rockets or cowboys, I'm not capping preflop. I suppose there's a merit to capping if you believe that one or both callers behind you will fold. I just dont think that will uaually be the case as they have already put in two bets. As for the turn, the obvious dilemma of what to do with AK unimproved. Given the size of the pot here (which is huge) I'd go ahead and bet. In most situations I'd love to see a free card but this pots so big I feel its worth another bet.

Mike Emery
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-13-2005, 12:53 AM
StacysMom StacysMom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: THX BARN!
Posts: 214
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

i thought ihad some fold equity vs a 5 or 6. Also with 2 ppl checking to me, I think I may take this pot down here.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-13-2005, 12:58 AM
NickRegino NickRegino is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 378
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

I would strongly consider betting on the turn with the pot so big, also if I can recall you should hit the A or K about 30% of the time by the river. If you dont get either you could fold out on the river, but then again I'm only a 1/2 player and I don't know much but this is the way I play it at that limit.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-13-2005, 01:03 AM
BradL BradL is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 0
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

Turn bet is pretty bad, a checkraised puts you in a really terrible spot given the size of the pot.

-Brad
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-13-2005, 01:09 AM
BradL BradL is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 0
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

[ QUOTE ]
if I can recall you should hit the A or K about 30% of the time by the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

Umm... there is one card unseen and hero has at best six outs, quite possibly far fewer (or none at all); best case scenerio hero has an ~13% chance to improve on the river.

Edited to change the word fewerer to fewer.

-Brad
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-13-2005, 01:14 AM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 5
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

[ QUOTE ]
also if I can recall you should hit the A or K about 30% of the time by the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good post Nick. Your right, just a little confused. You'll hit an Ace or a King overall approximately 1/3 of the time. Thats what you were thinking of. This includes the flop, turn, and river together. On the river your an approx. 6.5 to 1 dog to catch a ace or a king.

Mike Emery
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-13-2005, 01:19 AM
Emmitt2222 Emmitt2222 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Viva la Papa
Posts: 576
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

If they aren't calling stations and you do have some folding equity like you said you thought you did then I think that is a standard turn bet, but if you up against calling stations then thats a check thru.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-14-2005, 01:47 PM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Urbana, IL (UIUC)
Posts: 268
Default Re: Took a shot at 15. How about this one? AKo

I was sort of surprised by how many people like the bet...I'd like to hear some more opinions if anyone has 'em.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.