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Old 02-26-2005, 09:28 PM
Jdanz Jdanz is offline
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Default I have aces what do i do with them

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t790)
UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villian)/ (t785)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls t75, MP2 calls t75.

Flop: (t292.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villian checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, Villian calls t200, MP2 calls t200.

Turn: (t892.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Villain bets t175....


mp folds, I?
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Old 02-26-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

It's ugly, but I think you gotta muck.
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Old 02-26-2005, 09:36 PM
spentrent spentrent is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

I think I might push on this flop to punish drawing hands.

The pot on this flop is big enough for top pair to take down right away.

In your situation, I cry as I hit the fold button while a piece of my heart dies.
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Old 02-26-2005, 09:38 PM
Texas Pete Texas Pete is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

You lost with AA. It happens. Since they called your flop bet you know they are drawing. Now don't make it worse and give them your whole stack.
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Old 02-26-2005, 09:48 PM
willperkins willperkins is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

Well, lets see, you can push or fold.



Option 1-Push.

If you are going to call, you might as well push. There is t1085 in the pot after the villian bet. Since you only have t490 left you should push. He will probably call since he too is pot commited. If you win, you should be able to cruise to the money.


Option 2.-Fold

He limped in and then called your raise preflop, He checked the flop and then incorrectly called your bet (if he was on a flush draw). Then he bet out on the turn after the 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] hit the board. It sure looks like he hit the flush, which means you are way behind. If you fold, you still have t490 and the blinds are still very low.


IMHO, I fold.
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Old 02-26-2005, 10:08 PM
Jdanz Jdanz is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

thanks guys, i suck, i knew , i pushed, i lost.
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Old 02-26-2005, 11:00 PM
bweiser8311962 bweiser8311962 is offline
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shoulda been all-in on the flop ... or preflop.
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Old 02-26-2005, 11:57 PM
Ryan527h Ryan527h is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

Should've bet alot more w/ 2 suit on the flop, I probably woulda pushed on the flop. Once the third spade comes its an automatic fold.
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Old 02-27-2005, 12:49 AM
bweiser8311962 bweiser8311962 is offline
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Should've bet alot more w/ 2 suit on the flop, I probably woulda pushed on the flop. Once the third spade comes its an automatic fold.


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Why? Because there are 3 spades? Yes, you'll run into your share of flushes. But no way is it AUTOMATIC to fold. If you are going to fold every time there is a scary board, you are going to lose a lot of pots you could win. And you are going to become a very easy bluff target.
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Old 02-27-2005, 08:24 AM
Strollen Strollen is offline
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Default Re: I have aces what do i do with them

Why is everybody so certain that the villian has a flush?
How about about AsJd or KsJc or even something a bit worse like pocket 10s. If your opponent has suited cards, lets say 1/2 the time because he called a big preflop raise. The chance there are the same as the 2 suits on the flop is &lt; 25%.

Given your pot size raise on the flop it is pretty safe that your opponent is not putting you on a a flush draw. Why shouldn't the villiam make a semibluff bet that says I got my flush when the scare card comes.

If this was a multiway pot at the flop, sure I'd fold but against a single opponent.... call or push.
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