Poker Room, well, frankly it sucks

Just busted out on Poker Room after 6 or 7 months of playing. I'll never be back. It's a common story: When I started I was a bad player who couldn't lose and ran up over $1300. Over time I became a much better player but, like all who hang around for a few months, my cards went cold. Cryogenic cold for months, while I watch the new chimps run up huge bankrolls. I know there are those who will say that I'm on a cold streak and bitter etc. but I know this: When I play in a cardroom and have a good night, then play pokerroom I get killed. And if i've been playing poker room then go to the casino, I get killed there.


My point is that Poker Room deals cards that are weighted to allow new players to win and make it very tough for veterans to drag a pot. This keeps more tables going, thus inreasing the rake. Screw the people who are already here and hope they stay. All the good players I knew there have left with the same story. Sad really. I'm on my way to True Poker now - I hear the cards are more realistic.


For the record, my screen name on Poker Room was Morenz and any Poker Room staff can kiss my white Canadaian bum goodbye.


People be warned.

Could it be that you don't play as well as you think and are in fact a losing player? At the B&M tables where I play, I get to talk to unknown players (because they recognize me) who play just terrible (based on my observations). In almost every case they claim to be strong winning players.


Poker is much tougher and more complex than most people think. Now if you have done poorly at one site, I don't fault you for switching to another one. However, you may want to review your game. I could recommend a few books that might help.

Will you keep the same handle at TruePoker?

What Mason said is generally correct; players overestimate how good they are after a big winning streak and think they can never lose. But I do not believe this is the case in Kempie's case. I have played with Morenz on a number of occasions, and I will tell you for a fact that he is a solid player, and is no fish. The reason I empathize with his story is that I formerly played on Pokerroom at the highest limits and won almost $5,000. Then the cold cards from hell came and I couldn't win. I too took my business elsewhere. I am not convinced they deal a square game...the rivers are just too incredible...you can almost see them before they are dealt. If you have a set, the 4th flush card is guaranteed to hit. New players can't lose and build up huge rolls. I will say for a FACT that I have no proof of any of this, but I will say that after I cashed out a substantial amount, I have never been able to consistently win there again. I win on other sites, and live. The games are super soft on there, but it seems like a spiderweb. Be careful.


Player

While it's possible that Morentz is a loser this type of post really makes me wonder. Any poker site with the least amount of larceny in their heart would set things up exactly as he describes. Competetion is tough and to lose a new player to the sharks is, in the minds of unethical managment, a tragedy.

I don't understand the motivation that an online room would have to want to bust out their best customers, the ones that are playing lots of hours and keeping the games going. I mean, yes, you need new customers, but more importantly, you need to keep your best customers happy.


I would like to know how many hours the original poster played in those 6 or 7 months. If it was 500 hours I'd be more sympathetic than if it was 100 hours. I myself have had enormous ups and downs playing online, but that's the nature of poker.

I'll tell you that I played thousands of hours, and Morenz was at my table quite often. Like I said, I have no proof of anything, BUT I have played many hours of poker both live and online, and I think that these people hit more than is mathmatically valid. Again, it is just that the feel of the game is off, and rather than bitching (hey, I won a lot of money), I am going to take my business elsewhere rather than lose my money back.


Player

The loss rate for the player in question (Morenz) is very low, however even with a very small rate it can really build up after thousands of hands.

After reviewing some of his played hands I can see that he isn't exactly any "fish", but that there are definitely a few leaks (which I won't go into in public) in his playing strategy. Mason's advice about him reviewing his own game

seems like good advice.


People who have any experience in running a cardroom (online or not) already knows that

much more income is generated from regular players than from newbies/tourists. In other words, the argument that PokerRoom.com should in any way try to make inexperienced players win more often is not only untrue, it's also not logical.


We have the results of a statistical analysis of 500,000 real money hands played at PokerRoom.com. It clearly shows that our shuffle is completely random. You may also download the raw data for your own analysis.


http://www.pokerroom.com/info-integr...alAnalysis.php


Please let us know what else you poker players would like to see from an online poker room, in order to prove its integrity. You can post it here at twoplustwo or contact us

directly at support@pokerroom.com if you'd like.


Regards,

Oscar Hornell

webmaster@PokerRoom.com


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Does this mean if I buyin to TruePoker now I will certainly win????? If so, here I come [img]/images/smile.gif[/img]