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Old 04-10-2002, 06:43 PM
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Default Should I have raised pre-flop?



Game #175066066 (Level IV, Game #7) - 100/200 Hold'em - 2002/04/08-17:54:54

(CST)

Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: waterrock (1,910 in chips)

Seat 2: Bradley69 (900 in chips)

Seat 3: JimCore (1,070 in chips)

Seat 4: Nepal (530 in chips)

Seat 5: pagak (520 in chips)

Seat 6: rebbell (500 in chips)

Seat 7: ShimmyShimmy (500 in chips)

Seat 8: SEINER (550 in chips)

Seat 9: waco1 (670 in chips)

Seat 10: Mike_Haven (850 in chips)

Bradley69: Post Small Blind (50)

JimCore : Post Big Blind (100)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Kc ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Kd ]

Nepal : Call (100)

pagak : Raise (200)

rebbell : Fold

ShimmyShimmy: Fold

SEINER : Fold

waco1 : Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise (300)

waterrock: Call (300)

Bradley69: Fold

JimCore : Fold

Nepal : Call (200)

pagak : Call (100)

*** FLOP *** : [ 4s 7d 4c ]

Nepal : Bet (100)

pagak : Call (100)

Mike_Haven: Raise (200)

waterrock: Fold

Nepal : Raise All-in (130)

pagak : Call All-in (120)

Mike_Haven: Call (30)

*** TURN *** : [ 4s 7d 4c ] [ Ks ]

*** RIVER *** : [ 4s 7d 4c Ks ] [ Ah ]

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: 2,010 | Side pot 1: 20 | Board: [ 4s 7d 4c Ks Ah ]

waterrock lost 300 (folded)

Bradley69 lost 50 (folded)

JimCore lost 100 (folded)

Nepal lost 530 (showed hand) [ Kh 4h ] (a full house, fours full of kings)

pagak lost 520 (showed hand) [ Ac Qd ] (two pair, aces and fours)

rebbell didn't bet (folded)

ShimmyShimmy didn't bet (folded)

SEINER didn't bet (folded)

waco1 didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet 530, collected 2,030, net +1,500 (showed hand) [ Kc Kd ] (a

full house, kings full of fours)


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Old 04-10-2002, 06:50 PM
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of course, unless a little bird told you you'd turn kings full. By that level in the tournament the blinds are getting pretty big so you just need a couple of opponents to make the hand a big score. two all-in opponents is unfortunate but you did get to knock out two guys at once.
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Old 04-10-2002, 08:34 PM
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You MUST be a reverand to catch that one outer.
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Old 04-11-2002, 09:30 AM
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Absolutely! Especially being the initial raiser is somewhat short stacked and everyone else has folded to you. You want to shut out any ace if you can and at the same time get as much $ in the middle before the flop as possible. If you've run into AA from the initial raiser, he's gonna get all-in on the flop and you still have 2 outs with chips left if you lose.


I know Nepal was somewhat short-stacked. However he/she made a horrible call utg with K4h (if he's going to take a stand he should have raised) and got very lucky when he flopped a set, then got very unlucky when you spiked your K. I think it was the the poker God's way a telling Nepal that he shouldn't have played the hand in the first place. Ya think?


WTG Mike!


How'd you end up?


KC50


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Old 04-11-2002, 05:13 PM
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Should you have raised, yes definitely !

A better focus point about that hand is Nepal. With him been shortstacked and blinds rising. From early position he had a decent opportunity to try to steal blinds by raising and not calling.


Enrique
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Old 04-12-2002, 05:38 PM
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Thanks, KC.


Third in that one, I think.


I "always" come third. As soon as I am in the money zone I seem to relax, and I usually go all-in on some crummy hand that gets whupped - as it should, admittedly!
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