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01-17-2005, 01:13 PM
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Hand vs PhilHellmuth
This still made me feel good, better than it should.
This happened a while ago. 2/4 Limit Omaha 8/b. beavis68: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Pre-flop: vaxumgax folds. Dogger2000 folds. PhilHellmuth raises to $4. Shingen calls. Stougaard calls. A10100101001 folds. xgetlostx folds. DB Scooper folds. beavis68 calls. The great Phil Hellmuth raises, so I figure he has A2 at least, he may have me totally over a barrel, but my hand is fairly strong, and could win a big pot/ Flop (board: t [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ): beavis68 checks. PhilHellmuth checks. Shingen checks. Stougaard bets $2. beavis68 calls. PhilHellmuth calls. Shingen calls. I most likely should have folded right here, but I have a lot of backdoor chances. Turn (board: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ): beavis68 checks. PhilHellmuth checks. Shingen checks. Stougaard checks. OK, they are probably all on low draws. River (board: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]): OK, the board bricked-up. I am sure these guys are on low draws and I know Phil is going to try to steal it here. beavis68 checks. PhilHellmuth bets $4. Shingen folds. Stougaard folds. Great everyone folded! beavis68 raises to $8. PhilHellmuth folds. beavis68 is returned $4 (uncalled). Hand #1118502-5635 Summary: $1.50 is raked from a pot of $33. beavis68 wins $31.50. This was fun! Closest I will ever come to that silly rounders moment. Did you have it Beav? Sorry champ, I don't remember. - UGH - don't hate me. 
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#4
01-17-2005, 09:32 PM
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Re: Hand vs PhilHellmuth
Beavis - It was not a bluff. Tens over fours with an ace kicker was most likely the best hand.
What you did was pick off a bluff. And that was a good read and a fine play. However, I think you do better by just calling. If it is a bluff, your raise will not get called. If it's not a bluff, you'll at least get called and will lose at least one extra big bet. Only if Phil bets with trips and then plays weak, do you profit vrom the bluff. I think Phil checks trips here, but may bet. But if he does bet trips, I think he calls the raise. Thus picking off the bluff was excellent, but raising was not. Just my opinion. Buzz
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#6
01-18-2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: Hand vs PhilHellmuth
[ QUOTE ]
Beavis - It was not a bluff. Tens over fours with an ace kicker was most likely the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] His hand was not tens over fours it was tens over eights with an ace kicker. So most likely he was splitting with somebody else I wouldn't be surprised if he was splitting with Helmuth. I think this was easily a bluff.
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#7
01-18-2005, 12:10 PM
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Re: Hand vs PhilHellmuth
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[ QUOTE ] Beavis - It was not a bluff. Tens over fours with an ace kicker was most likely the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] His hand was not tens over fours it was tens over eights with an ace kicker. So most likely he was splitting with somebody else I wouldn't be surprised if he was splitting with Helmuth. I think this was easily a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Yads, two from your hand, 3 from the board. He can't play the two pair on the board.
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#9
01-18-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: Hand vs PhilHellmuth
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Beavis - It was not a bluff. Tens over fours with an ace kicker was most likely the best hand. What you did was pick off a bluff. And that was a good read and a fine play. However, I think you do better by just calling. If it is a bluff, your raise will not get called. If it's not a bluff, you'll at least get called and will lose at least one extra big bet. Only if Phil bets with trips and then plays weak, do you profit vrom the bluff. I think Phil checks trips here, but may bet. But if he does bet trips, I think he calls the raise. Thus picking off the bluff was excellent, but raising was not. Just my opinion. Buzz [/ QUOTE ] You are correct Buzz, it was a power play and I wanted to make him fold. I was only playing the game because Phil was there. And these is always a chance he had A255 or something. But I agree with you, and I actually was thinking more about what he had than what I had.
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#10
01-18-2005, 04:04 PM
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Re: Hand vs PhilHellmuth
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Beavis - It was not a bluff. Tens over fours with an ace kicker was most likely the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] His hand was not tens over fours it was tens over eights with an ace kicker. So most likely he was splitting with somebody else I wouldn't be surprised if he was splitting with Helmuth. I think this was easily a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Yads, two from your hand, 3 from the board. He can't play the two pair on the board. [/ QUOTE ] D'oh ofcourse, my bad.
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