The Hero is a zero!!!

[stags14]

There has been some discussion of the way the hero played this hand on another forum I visit. I think the hero played poorly here, others said it was "brilliant"

Comments?

Level VI: 25 Ante 100/200 Blinds (25 Minimum Chip)
Average Stack: 11,456.31 (10,000 starting chips)
Remaining Players: 103 (118 started)
Seat 1 : MP2 starts with 8,650
Seat 2 : MP3 starts with 9,250
Seat 3 : CO starts with 19,650
Seat 4 : HERO starts with 8,150
Seat 5 : SB starts with 275
Seat 6 : BB starts with 11,300
Seat 7 : UTG starts with 21,225
Seat 8 : UTG+1 starts with 7,550
Seat 9 : UTG+2 starts with 13,950
Seat 10 : MP1 starts with 9,175
Seat 4 : HERO has the dealer button

>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
HERO is on the Button and is dealt 5h 8h
All players post 25 ante
SB posts the small blind 100
BB posts the big blind 200

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 200, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 200, MP3 calls 200, CO folds, HERO calls 200, SB folds,
BB raises 575 to 775
UTG+1 calls 575, MP2 calls 575, MP3 calls 575, HERO calls 575

>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ Ad 6h As ]
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, HERO checks

>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 4c ]
BB bets 500, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls 500, MP3 folds, HERO calls 500

>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ 7d ]
BB bets 2,500, MP2 calls 2,500, HERO calls 2,500

BB cards were Ah Qc
MP2 mucks hand
HERO cards were 5h 8h
HERO wins 13,225 with an eight high straight

[adanthar]

What's Hero's name so I can add him to my buddy list?

[stags14]

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What's Hero's name so I can add him to my buddy list?

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LOL

The discussion just got more interesting as one of the hero's buddies claimed the hero's pre-flop call of the raise was absolutely correct because, and I quote, "he only had to call $575 into an over $3K pot when he was at worst 6:4 dog."

That is interesting math to say the least.

[stags14]

^^ Any other comments on this hand?

[Lloyd]

Personally, I'm not even trying to limp in with that hand. I'm drawing to a middle flush and probably a second best straight. Wouldn't even think of calling the raise.

[BradL]

On what forum was this hand discussed as "brilliant"?

-Brad

[Che]

stags14-

Flop play is perfect.

Turn play is also perfect since hero is closing the action and has odds to draw to the gutshot (assuming hero is willing to occasionally go broke when his gutshot comes in and he loses to a boat). If hero is not willing to take his chances with the boat, he should fold regardless of position.

I probably push on the river since MP2 obviously does not have a boat and BB will pay off with trips much more often than he kills you with 66 or A6 for the slowplayed boat. Moving on with <4000 doesn't excite me at this point so I'm going for broke.

Preflop: I'm loose enough to limp this occasionally at some tables given the number of limpers and the button, but calling the raise is probably bad even with all the callers. You just don't flop a miracle often enough (or have opponents play their hands poorly enough that you back into a winner) to justify the 575 with only 8000 in your stack. Implied odds on the 200 with an 8000 stack are borderline (at best) but the 575 cuts your implied odds too much. But you knew that last part...

Later,
Che

[zaxx19]

donkeyriffic !!!

horrible call preflop but I was just in a PLH tourney where i caught AK on button raised the pot which was massive bc there where like 6 limpers and got called...5 6 k falls....
...i hope yu guys see where this on is going.

he called with 56 suited against only one opp with 17% of his stack and out of postion...

This play is even worse WOW

[NorCalJosh]

obviously preflop its absolutely terrible. after that, the flop and turn plays look good to me, turn he's getting 10:1, and assuming he's reading that no one has a boat, huge implied odds on the river if he hits. river looks weak. he just seems like your typical weak calling station, nothing out of the ordinary there.

Not sure what level of tourney this is, but it seems like (if theres a guy playing like this in the field), the BB might have been better off just playing his hand straightforward instead of trying to get fancy, since with as many opponents as there were in the field, he'd probably end up getting paid off with any weaker ace or so, and he probably could have knocked out the "hero" before the turn with a bet, or even after the turn with a somewhat larger bet.

[Moonsugar]

Preflop limp is fine Preflop call is loose and probably incorrect.

Flop, perfect.

Turn, perfect.

River, good. I think we can debate ad nauseum wheteher he should raise the river. Calling and raising are both good options. If you raise you better know what you are going to do with a reraise from either player though.

Bottom line: He made 1 loose play. Not horrible, and not brilliant.