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Old 08-13-2005, 10:46 PM
etizzle etizzle is offline
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Default underpair bluff 5/10

in the spirit of posting lag hands here is one i just played. Villain is pretty much an unknown.

Party Poker 1000 NL (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">Hero raises to 40,4 folds</font>, BB calls.

($85)Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, hero bets 65, BB raises to 130, hero calls.

($345)Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, hero bets 175, BB calls.

($795)River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 1066 (All-In).


what do you guys think? What range do you put him on after he check-calls the turn and checks the river?
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

I think your turn bet is too small and not very believable. Flop call / small turn bet / river all-in don't seem very consistent for a set.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

it's about time you started posting here tindalian
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

How did you know this poster was Evan Tindell?
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

He check minraised you on the flop, I dont know what that means against an unknown at the 5-10 6 max level, the flop action forces me to add set into his hand range because I have seen a set being played like that.
It either looks like like a trickily played set or a pair such as jacks/tens. I dont think i can put him on a flush draw, because he checked the river, I mean he has no reason to believe you are betting that river.
I think JJ/TT are more likely than a set unless he was trapping you, hard to tell against an unknown.
Why would he min raise the flop with something like AK, when it has very little folding equity against the preflop raiser??
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

ok good thing you have clues in your profile to let me know who you were and how you knew me. I think we've discussed this before though, in pretty much the same chain of events.

Otherwise this whole thing would have been really weird. I know camelzoo from school.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

In general i think his line would be semi retarded with a set. Hes got to think the ace might help me and that his best chance to keep me around is by betting out. C/R the turn with a set would only let me off easy if a set is what he had.

Granted, he may not be capable of thinking it through this much, but I'm pretty sure most players would just continue the lead with a set here.

Also, when he checks the river I think we can pretty much rule out a set as a possible hand. Like you said, he has no reason to believe that I will bet it here.
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Old 08-14-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

What are your plans if he leads into you on turn?
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

i was going to fold unless I spiked a 6 if he kept the lead.
Also on the river he only had about 700 left so it wasnt really an overbet in case that affects anything.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: underpair bluff 5/10

are you showing if/when he folds?
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