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Old 12-28-2004, 11:21 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Party 5/10 game. Decent, not great.

Folded to the sb who raises. The sb (I am 90% sure he is a 2+2er) is Taggy and steal raises with some regularity (he open raised after posting in CO with K4 earlier) I would assume the sb is aware that I am tight and at least somewhat aggressive, but we have not played tons of hands together--I would guess a couple hundred total. I have K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB and 3-bet. SB caps and I call.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets, I call

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, I raise, sb calls.

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, I check.
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:28 AM
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I can't see anything I'd do differently, especially if SB is aware that he's been stealing with regularly and so you'd play back at him with less than normal.

Looks like a nice hand to me.

Rob
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:55 AM
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I don't think I like the turn raise. You let him get away from his overcards cheap plus you have to call a 3-bet getting 11:1 on your 5-outer.

If he then checks the river, you bet and he'll likely call with a big ace. If he bets again, you call. You pick up the same number of bets when ahead and lose less when behind. Also, the risk of a cheap card is minimal since you may have him reverse dominated with your king.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:08 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Festus:

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I don't think I like the turn raise. You let him get away from his overcards cheap plus you have to call a 3-bet getting 11:1 on your 5-outer.


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I think the size of the pot is right on the line as far as wanting him to fold his overs, if he has 2 live ones. But since I hold a K, that really only leaves AQ as a hand he might fold that is drawing live. (if I am ahead), so you are probably right. However, the up side of the turn raise is that I might get 88-TT to fold--a small, but not insignificant chance.

The more I think about it, the more I do not like the turn raise.

--Rico
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:51 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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SB had TT and I lose.

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Old 12-28-2004, 03:59 PM
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I'm not sure I really like the 3-bet from the BB in this case, I would've just called in this instance. Maybe I don't 3-bet in blind steal situations enough, but I usually reserve that for pairs 66-JJ, AQ-A8, KQ, KJ, etc type hands.
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:15 PM
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I make my stand on the flop.
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:11 PM
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Redeye:

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I'm not sure I really like the 3-bet from the BB in this case, I would've just called in this instance.

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I do not casually 3-bet with mediocre hands against blind steals out of the BB but I did in this case b/c:

1. I thought there was a good chance that he was stealing,

combined wtih....

2. He was a decent player, capable of folding postflop.

3. I have position on him.

and perhaps, most importantly...

4. If he knows I am going to 3-bet him (especially with mediocre holdings) when he is raising from steal positions, he will not be so inclined to play at my blinds in the future.

I am not saying I am right here, just relating why I did it.

--Rico
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:14 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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sfer:

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I make my stand on the flop.

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why? I am not saying you are wrong, I just want to know your reasoning. Are you folding the the turn unimproved if he 3-bets the flop? These HU situations are killing me....I suck. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

--Rico
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:14 PM
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Why?
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