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Old 06-13-2002, 10:16 PM
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Default 3rd Street play 10-20



Here's a common stud hand.


A - xx 3 bring in

B - xx T fold

C - xx Q fold

D - xx 5 fold

E ( me ) - Q2 Q( 3 suited ) raise

F - xx 7 call

G - xx 8 call

H - xx A Reraise


Bring in folds.

How would you play the queens ? raise fold or call( cough ).


Note , this is a fairly loose game ( F,G and H all loose passive type ).

H definately has aces.
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Old 06-13-2002, 10:18 PM
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Default Correction!!



Change - 3 suited to unsuited

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Old 06-14-2002, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: 3rd Street play 10-20



Easy Fold..


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Old 06-14-2002, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: 3rd Street play 10-20



One Q is already dead. Your raise was incorrect with an Ace behind you.Should Have either folded or just risked the bring in. In games I play, the holder of Ace would reraise almost always in situation like this. Now you've to fold.
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Old 06-15-2002, 02:37 AM
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>>In games I play, the holder of Ace would reraise almost always in situation like this. Now you've to fold. >>


Against that kind of a player I will definately not fold.


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Old 06-16-2002, 04:38 PM
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If you raised to (1) protect your Queens with 1 of them dead, then that's OK. If you raised to see if the Ace had a pair which would be signified by his reraising, then you have a decision. Is the Ace just taking advantage of the dead Queen and the fact he/she has an overcard, or does he/she have a pair. On the surface, I think you have a problem tat requires a fold. The play is OK if you can get the Ace to fold, but he does not.


A fold is in order. You might try to expose your Queens to see if the other raiser does expose his cards. Would be nice to see what he/she has raised with. If a no show, consider that the raise was most likely a (semi?)bluff and keep it in the back of your mind for the next time.
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Old 06-16-2002, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: 3rd Street play 10-20



Nice analysis.

But keep in mind the loose passive style of the opponent. This opponent will never reraise with a 3 flush or a smaller pair. In this case were dealing with an opponent who doesn't bet for full value ( very easily manipulated), including the characteristic check on 6th st with an unimproved pair. Very predictable.



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