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08-28-2003, 10:36 AM
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if more hands are dealt shouldn\'t the fish be gone real fast?
twice as many hands dealt. I see lots of fish playing 2 or more tables. Well shouldn't they be going broke 2x as fast and for those that play 2 table 4x+ faster? Lets see there is heads up cap, all major sites have low buy in NL instead of large ones it just gets me thinking what else the sites do to keep the fish afloat? The fish (majority) is what is going to keep the site alive. If they last longer then the sharks stay around and more money gets recirculated and then taken off the table. It's a must for them keep the fish alive. Perhaps even important enough to do what people say they wouldn't do. I'm not great but instead of being up 15k I seriously believe I should be in 25-30k mark if not for some really oddball stuff happening over and over.
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08-28-2003, 11:14 AM
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Re: if more hands are dealt shouldn\'t the fish be gone real fast?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
There is a search function on this site, you can have plenty of fun reading the five million other posts identical to this one. If you can't use it very well, there is a big grey thing between your ears, try using that to work out why fish come back. Lori
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08-28-2003, 11:15 AM
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Re: if more hands are dealt shouldn\'t the fish be gone real fast?
"I'm not great but instead of being up 15k I seriously believe I should be in 25-30k mark if not for some"
I believe that I should receive oral sex whenever I request it.
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08-28-2003, 11:17 AM
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Re: if more hands are dealt shouldn\'t the fish be gone real fast?
Look at a casino, in essence every single one of them is a fish. Everyone in there is trying to beat the odds, all lose over the long run. Do you they quit after losing a set amount of money and never come back? Have all the fish gone broke and left the casino forever? No, they keep coming back and back. These people are gamblers, periodic reinforcement keeps them coming back. They might have 5 losing sessions in a row, but they can't forget that last time they got hot cards and won a bundle.
Don't think fish can't win big sometimes no matter how bad they are. When I was in Vegas I was at a table with a guy who only folded a total 5 times in 6 hours. At one point he won 16 out of 17 hands in a row in a 10 handed game. He called every single bet down and consistently pulled miracles on the river. He couldn't lose. The edge for a skilled player in limit Holdem is small enough that the fish will win enough occasionally to keep them playing, same as slots and roulette. If you truly believe you'd be up 25-30k if not for "action flops" and the like then you should be thanking the rigged software. Without it you'd be up 30k this year, but all the fish would be gone. Instead you can win 15k every single year. Action flops would be VERY EASY to expose. Simply take 500 flops and do statistical analysis. If there is a preponderance of high cards you can be 99% sure the site is rigged. I haven't done this analysis, but if you're suspicious why not do it? Ask anyone who has taken a statistics course how to. OffTilt ------------------------------------------ Start winning hundreds at Texas Holdem with Power Holdem+ http://www.online-pokerguide.com
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08-28-2003, 11:22 AM
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Re: if more hands are dealt shouldn\'t the fish be gone real fast?
What exactly are you saying?
What he is saying is that people who blame the software for their own overestimate of their own skill level should just accuse everyone else of cheating them and not engage their brain. It's much easier and far more fun than facing the truth. Lori
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#9
08-28-2003, 11:43 AM
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it\'s not the action flops it\'s the big hand vs. big hand
yes I've run all the numbers through tracker and everything is within reason. I play NL so when KK vs AA happens set over set happens etc there is little chance for someone to get away from their hand. I've played enough NL in casinos to know KK vs AA and set over set is damn rare and shouldn't be happening ever session online eventhough there are 2x as many hands and I'm playing 3 tables. I've played 28-30 days a month last year from sept to dec 2002. I've seen set over set or KK vs. AA maybe once a month if that. I see it mulitple times daily online. There is no way for me track such occurrences.
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08-28-2003, 11:58 AM
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Re: it\'s not the action flops it\'s the big hand vs. big hand
I've played 28-30 days a month last year from sept to dec 2002. I've seen set over set or KK vs. AA maybe once a month if that.
LOL. You need to play more live poker. Go to a live tournament and look what happens in the real world, AA vs KK happens in nearly every tournament, and so it should. Someone at your table will have Aces about once every 25 hands, Someone will have Kings about the same. If you cant work out where this was heading you are beyond help. So roughly roughly speaking It should happen every 600 hands or so. A typical dealer deals 36 hands an hour, lets call it 30. That means it should happen on YOUR TABLE every 20 hours live, yes, every day, every single day. In a ten table tourney it should happen every 2 hours, thats....EVERY TOURNEY. Lori
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