Bush: Thoughts?

[SomethingClever]

Since political threads seem to be all the rage, I'll add another.

I personally don't know anyone that supports Bush. But I live in a pretty liberal city, so that's probably why.

Since I've never really had a chance to converse with a Bush supporter, I'm very curious as to how they stand on various issues.

1) Stem cell research: For it or against it? And why?
2) Iraq war: Your thoughts.
3) Gay marriage: For it or against it? And why?
4) Birth control for 3rd world countries: Good thing or bad thing?
5) The environment: To what extent should we be policing corporations for violations?
6) Taxes: How much is too much? How much is too little? Who should pay the most? The least?
7) Military experience: Required to lead our country?
8) Religion: Are you religious? Do your beliefs influence your politics?

A note to those who might hijack this thread with Kerry-bashing: I haven't mentioned Kerry. I just want to hear the thoughts of the pro-Bush population on these topics. Feel free to bash Kerry in another thread.

Further disclaimer: Here are my thoughts.

1) For it. Not for cloning purposes, but to treat genetic diseases.
2) I feel somewhat deceived by Bush's justification for the war, but also that we can't simply evacuate the country at this point.
3) For it. Why not?
4) Abso-fricken-lutely a good thing. Teach 'em how to use it, too.
5) Heavily
6) Fewer loopholes for the rich and for corporations. I don't mind paying more as long as I know it's not being wasted.
7) No, and I think it's ridiculous that such a big deal is being made by both sides about both of the candidates records. I do think the Bush camp (including Cheney) is being particularly hypocritical in this area.
8) No, and they absolutely shouldn't. Separation of church and state, and all.

[riverflush]

Be ready for a lot of posts that don't answer your questions - but merely pontificate on whatever that particular poster wants to talk about at that given moment.

Like this one...

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Fewer loopholes for the rich and for corporations. I don't mind paying more as long as I know it's not being wasted.


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Ha! Not being wasted. I'll appoint you to keep track of making sure it's not wasted, that way you can sleep at night.

And I'm FOR more tax loopholes for the rich and corporations. As long as we're subject (by force) to a convoluted, thousands of pages-long tax code...I support the MAXIMUM number of ways to legally work around it. More write-offs, more tax-deferred income, more spending of pre-tax $$$ at the corporate level, etc.

The more money that is left free to spend by both individuals AND corporations, the better off we all are.

Flame on!

[Jimbo]

I only have time to comment on the most remarkable point in your post.

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I personally don't know anyone that supports Bush. But I live in a pretty liberal city, so that's probably why.


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Perhaps you should get out a bit more often.

Jimbo

[sameoldsht]

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The more money that is left free to spend by both individuals AND corporations, the better off we all are.

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Are you a graduate of the 12 Step Program ?

[sameoldsht]

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1) Stem cell research: For it or against it? And why?
2) Iraq war: Your thoughts.
3) Gay marriage: For it or against it? And why?
4) Birth control for 3rd world countries: Good thing or bad thing?
5) The environment: To what extent should we be policing corporations for violations?
6) Taxes: How much is too much? How much is too little? Who should pay the most? The least?
7) Military experience: Required to lead our country?
8) Religion: Are you religious? Do your beliefs influence your politics?


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Answers can be found at: George W. Bush

[riverflush]

That's a funny post...I had never read it previously.

Actually I've never had to enter the 12-step program - thankfully - being a capitalist who picked up my first Economics book at around age 12.

Don't get me started on the lack of basic economics education...I could write 10,000 word posts. (Ask nothumb) It's an ugly scene...

[daryn]

iraq war: i think it's sad that american kids have to die to liberate iraq while the iraqi kids get to play olympic soccer.

gay marriage: have to say against. after all it's just not marriage. absolutely for civil unions though, giving identical rights to gay couples.

the environment: i'm in the "who cares" camp. the earth can only last so long anyway right? so what, we make the world a better place for the next couple thousand years of people.. then what.

taxes: i hate paying for stupid programs that are being abused.

military experience: not required to lead the nation, of course. this one is easy! also i think the reason that the bush camp was making a big deal out of kerry's record is that kerry has marketed himself as a war hero. that is all he is about.

religion: what does "being religious" even mean? i believe in God i think, but how can i be sure? i wouldn't say religion influences my politics though.

[Nepa]

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1) Stem cell research: For it or against it? And why?
2) Iraq war: Your thoughts.
3) Gay marriage: For it or against it? And why?
4) Birth control for 3rd world countries: Good thing or bad thing?
5) The environment: To what extent should we be policing corporations for violations?
6) Taxes: How much is too much? How much is too little? Who should pay the most? The least?
7) Military experience: Required to lead our country?
8) Religion: Are you religious? Do your beliefs influence your politics?


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1.) I'm for it, why wouldn't you want ppl. to find a cure for dreaded dieases.
2.) This is a tough one. Personally, I think we rushed in there without an exit plan. This is a mess that I'm not sure that Bush or (That other guy that I can't name in this post) can fix.
3.) Let the states decide this issue.
4.) Good thing, not very high on my issue list. What about Heath our country?Health care?
5.) another issue that the states should be dealing with
6.) Reduce spending than reduce taxes not vice versa
7.) Not required
8.) Personal but don't affect my decisions

You won't get any Bush supporters responding to these questions. Most Bush supporters would rather talk about (that guy I can't name in this post) than issues.

[dmk]

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1) Stem cell research: For it or against it? And why?
2) Iraq war: Your thoughts.
3) Gay marriage: For it or against it? And why?
4) Birth control for 3rd world countries: Good thing or bad thing?
5) The environment: To what extent should we be policing corporations for violations?
6) Taxes: How much is too much? How much is too little? Who should pay the most? The least?
7) Military experience: Required to lead our country?
8) Religion: Are you religious? Do your beliefs influence your politics?


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FYI, I will be voting for Bush come Nov.

1) For disease/etc research, against cloning.
2) I wont' go deep into this, but speaking as someone who's cousin volunteered to go to Iraq (and is missing my wedding in a week) and who's father may be heading over soon, I am for it, as is the rest of my pro-Bush family.
3) For it. Let them get taxed as much as the rest of the married couples.
4) Good.
5) I'm not sure you can exactly quantify this.
6) Disclaimer: I'm middle-class. I agree w/ the tax breaks the upper class have received recently. It's rediculous to say "well, you make $200k/yr, so we're gonna tax you x% more than everyone else". It's especially irritating when said ppl acquire this wealth through their own hard work and accomplishments only to have a lot taken back because they are now well off.
7) No, not required.
8) Religious in a sense, yes. Of course religion affects my political beliefs, but I agree that those of political power need to keep religion and state separate (particularly the justice dept)

[pokerjo22]

I only know two people: one of them's a Christian and one of them's a moron.