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Old 07-06-2005, 08:40 PM
Poop4Munny Poop4Munny is offline
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Default A7s Middle pair on flop

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks.

River: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

If you're going to fire at the flop throw another bet on the turn. Your check on the turn is bad.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

Consider raising pre-flop next time. Bet the turn.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

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If you're going to fire at the flop throw another bet on the turn. Your check on the turn is bad.

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Old 07-06-2005, 09:12 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

FLOP: I prefer to CHECK this flop with a low middle pair, two spades on the board, and three opponents to follow.

Then:

1. I'll call one bet if it comes from the last to act as there is only one card in the playing zone (King), my kicker is higher than that King, and I have a BD Flush Draw to the Nuts.

2. If there is a bet and an overcall I might call.

3. To a bet and a raise I would fold.

NOTES: I don't like betting out unless my opponents are Tight Aggressive and are likely to fold without a King, likely to fold to a second shot on the Turn without a King, and/or they are likely to raise if they have one, thus allowing me to fold when it comes back to me.

Passive opponents sometimes just call with Top Pair, and could cause you to bet all the way to the River, just to lose. Hero is Out of Position in this hand. I prefer the CHECK.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

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Consider raising pre-flop next time. Bet the turn.

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you're doing this sans reads?
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

I'm sure someone else has said it: bet the turn.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:25 PM
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Consider raising pre-flop next time. Bet the turn.

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:04 AM
DasThiem DasThiem is offline
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

I think the bet on the flop i ok. You have middle pair with a top kicker and now its the time to test your opponents for stronger hnads. Since the just call i would also fire a bet on the turn the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is not a scarecard and you may be still ahead if there is no weak king or worse in the hands of an opponent.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: A7s Middle pair on flop

I don't bet the flop OOP with a low middle pair against three opponents...
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