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($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
Overpush or fold?
***** Hand History for Game 2723961505 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15800736 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, September 16, 21:43:25 EDT 2005 Table Table 13990 (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 1: LogicbombVT ( $1740 ) Seat 3: seahaig ( $625 ) Seat 6: ForkaDork ( $790 ) Seat 9: AndrewBashuk ( $705 ) Seat 10: ZhiznKorotka ( $960 ) Seat 7: StneColdCall ( $815 ) Seat 4: scottc676 ( $1295 ) Seat 2: Max0211 ( $350 ) Seat 5: FrenchPower2 ( $720 ) Trny:15800736 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to StneColdCall [ Kd As ] LogicbombVT folds. Max0211 folds. seahaig folds. scottc676 raises [300]. FrenchPower2 folds. ForkaDork calls [300]. StneColdCall ??? |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
Against a typical opponent I'm overpushing here.
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
Oh yeah easy push IMO
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
I dont find this remotely tough spot. Your hand is just too strong and your stack is too short to do anything but move allin (Although I cant imagine any stacksize that I wouldnt push with here) |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
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I dont find this remotely tough spot. Your hand is just too strong and your stack is too short to do anything but move allin (Although I cant imagine any stacksize that I wouldnt push with here) [/ QUOTE ] How about this one? Seat 1: 2000 Seat 2: 4000 Hero: 1900 Seat 3: 100 Blinds 50/100 Hero has AKo. Seat 1 raises to t500, Seat 2 calls, Hero??? |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
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[ QUOTE ] I dont find this remotely tough spot. Your hand is just too strong and your stack is too short to do anything but move allin (Although I cant imagine any stacksize that I wouldnt push with here) [/ QUOTE ] How about this one? Seat 1: 2000 Seat 2: 4000 Hero: 1900 Seat 3: 100 Blinds 50/100 Hero has AKo. Seat 1 raises to t500, Seat 2 calls, Hero??? [/ QUOTE ] I fold two jokers here. |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
With less than 10xBB in my stack, I can't wait to overpush here. Only when the raisers and myself have about 15BB or more, do I start thinking about this one.
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
Here's how the math for that works:
First, without looking at it but at a guess, you probably need to win around 80% to play if you were going to push. Having gotten to 80%, or 85%, or 99% - whatever the math says you need to win PF - it follows that you also need to win that often on the flop when you continue with the hand*. (*Let's say you call: with a bunch of chips in the pot and your stack smaller, that number will shrink after you see a flop. But that's irrelevant, because you set that up by calling in the first place. So we'll stick with the original 80%.) As it happens, if you flop TPTK and someone else has AQ, you win more than that often and can call a push. But you will not always flop a pair as often as you should (outs are missing), and more importantly, sometimes you will flop a pair and still have to fold even when you are ahead (basically any time your opponent has > 4-5 outs.) If you call AK here and then flop TPTK but the big stack flops a flush draw and calls a push, you lose tons of money. So, basically, this particular situation is a fold, but you want to look for spots where that 80% number drops down to something like 70%. That's still not enough to push AK PF into a couple of idiots, but it's enough to see three cards. |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
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How about this one? Seat 1: 2000 Seat 2: 4000 Hero: 1900 Seat 3: 100 Blinds 50/100 Hero has AKo. Seat 1 raises to t500, Seat 2 calls, Hero??? [/ QUOTE ] Very clear fold IMO, but it has almost nothing to do with the original hand. |
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Re: ($22) Tough spot with AKo preflop
of course u fold, u know the guys gonna catch quad 10's!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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