AKs tilt hand

EMcWilliams · #1 12-06-2005, 11:51 PM

I kinda just need someone to yell at me. Thanks.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($18.10)
UTG ($35.70)
MP ($34.45)
Button ($36.35)
Hero ($25.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero (poster) raises to $2.9, BB calls $2.75, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5, UTG Pushes, Hero calls (YUCK!!!!) BB folds

Turn: ($19) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: $ My stack

My only thought here was that I saw villian slowplay a set earlier, so I didnt think he had it.

#2 12-07-2005, 12:06 AM

UHG,I know the feeling all to well. I was going to make a similar post in hope of getting flamed on, but I'll just piggy back off what you've started. I have no clue what I was thinking - I literally misplayed every street. I'm bad at poker.

NL 100 @ pokerroom - I'm in seat 7

Hand 1555028788, Started at 12/5/2005 11:35 PM
Table 'Tacoma': $1-$1 No Limit HE (Real Money)
Seat 1: JHank44 ($68.40 in chips)
Seat 2: bearcat351 ($147.70 in chips)
Seat 3: billysunkw ($100.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Ultimate86 ($154.50 in chips)
Seat 5: FlaChris ($73.70 in chips)
Seat 6: dannyolah ($79.40 in chips)
Seat 7: dregal ($193.10 in chips)
Seat 8: trikprikears ($117.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Notty Play ($39.25 in chips) (on the button)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to dregal: 8h
Dealt to dregal: Ah
JHank44 : Post Blind ($0.50)
bearcat351 : Post Blind ($1)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
billysunkw : Fold
Ultimate86 : Fold
FlaChris : Bet ($5)
dannyolah : Fold
dregal : Call ($5)
trikprikears : Fold
Notty Play : Fold
JHank44 : Fold
bearcat351 : Call ($4)
*** Flop *** : 3h 9h 7h
bearcat351 : Check
FlaChris : Bet ($6)
dregal : Call ($6)
bearcat351 : Raise ($22)
FlaChris : Fold
dregal : Raise ($40)
bearcat351 : Call ($24)
*** Turn *** : [ 3h 9h 7h ] 2h
bearcat351 : Check
dregal : Check
*** River *** : [ 3h 9h 7h 2h ] 3d
bearcat351 : Bet ($96.70)
bearcat351 : All In
dregal : Call ($96.70)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $304.90 | Rake: $2
Board: [ 3h 9h 7h 2h 3d ]
Shows [ 9d 9s ] (a full house, nines full of threes.)
dregal lost $147.70 Shows [ 8h Ah ] (a flush, Ace high.)
bearcat351 bet $147.70, collected $304.90, net $157.20

DJ Sensei · #3 12-07-2005, 03:26 AM

Lead for full pot on flop. Not a hard call once it's pushed back to you, as you're rarely already against a boat, and your A's or K's could be live too.

DJ Sensei · #4 12-07-2005, 03:37 AM

preflop: don't call this, your reverse implied odds are quite bad. (against KK-JJ, you probaly won't win much when the ace comes. Against AK-AJ, you could lose plenty when the ace comes.)

flop: I'm fine with this line, slowplaying the made nut flush is fine here when people are betting into you, and once you get the reraise, its chip-shoving time. When he calls your reraise, his hand range is fairly small (set or smaller made flush). However, your hand isn't too hard to read from his perspective either. Keep that in mind on the turn and river.

turn: bad, wrong, no, don't give anybody free outs here. Bet 1/2 of the pot. smaller made flush will keep calling, and set might too (which is fine, you arent giving him odds)

river: shouldnt let yourself get into situations like this, but once you're here, I don't know whether calling or folding is better... I'd say fold. Villain knows you have either a big flush or a set, and he's pushing into you when the board pairs?... good sign of a stronger hand than yours.

orange · #5 12-07-2005, 03:47 AM

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I kinda just need someone to yell at me. Thanks.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($18.10)
UTG ($35.70)
MP ($34.45)
Button ($36.35)
Hero ($25.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero (poster) raises to $2.9, BB calls $2.75, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5, UTG Pushes, Hero calls (YUCK!!!!) BB folds

Turn: ($19) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: $ My stack

My only thought here was that I saw villian slowplay a set earlier, so I didnt think he had it.

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PF: I like raising a bit more- playing OOP is not fun and I want to take it down now.

Flop: I think is a pretty tough decision. Are your 2 over outs good? Bigger hands like these usually need fold equity with you pushing to be effective. I'm terrible with numbers so maybe you could crunch some odds on pokerstove to get a good range of hands/equity.

It kind've depends on the reads you have on your opponent. I think you can call if you like high variance and gamble.

Nice HJ btw.

theweatherman · #6 12-07-2005, 07:17 AM

Dregal:

Fold
Pre
Flop

Why would you ever call a raise with A8s at a full table?

(maybe if utg raised and it is called by everyone to you on the button, then ill call)

theweatherman · #7 12-07-2005, 07:23 AM

Ed:

Deffinitly raise more PF.

I like flop bet and the call is not too bad. Unless he will play any T like this your overs are good, this puts you at 50/50 or so to win. Calling $17 to a $41 pot is easy.

Of course if he has any ten you are sunk. But whatever, your Irish, the luck will catch up to ya.

EMcWilliams · #8 12-07-2005, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the responses....

Villian has 99 and my hand is pretty much worthless.