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Old 11-27-2003, 06:02 PM
Henke Henke is offline
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Default Help! Got killed today!

Lost $25 over 2h playing party $0.5/$1. So, here are some hands, and please, tell me how bad I played... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
(Spoiler at the bottom)

Hand 1:
Party Poker 0.50/1 (10 handed)
Hero has 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and is CO

UTG limps, EP1(poster) checks, EP2 limps, Hero limps, Button limps, SB limps, BB checks

Flop(7 SB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets, BB folds, UTG folds, EP1 calls, EP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls

Turn(6 BB): J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets, EP1 calls, EP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls

River(10 BB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, EP1 calls, Hero calls, Button calls

Hand 2:
Party Poker 0.50/1 (6 handed)
Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and is button

UTG limps, Hero limps, SB limps, BB checks

Flop(4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls

Turn(3.5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, SB reraises, Hero calls

River(9.5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bet, Hero calls.


Hand 3:
Party Poker 0.50/1 (9 handed)
Hero has T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and is MP1

Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls

Flop(8 SB): 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls

Turn(11 BB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, BB raises, Hero calls

River(15 BB): 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets, Hero calls

Hand 4:
Party Poker 0.50/1 (7 handed)
Hero has 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and is SB

UTG limps, MP1 limps, CO(poster) checks, Button folds, Hero limps, BB checks

Flop(5 SB): J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, CO checks

Turn(2.5 BB): 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, CO calls

River(6.5 BB): K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets, UTG raises, MP1 folds, CO calls, Hero calls





======== SPOILER =======
Hand 1:
SB had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
EP1 had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Button had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hand 2:
SB had 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for flopped straight.

Hand 3:
BB had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hand 4:
UTG shows K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for trips
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Old 11-27-2003, 08:39 PM
Saborion Saborion is offline
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

I`m not giving advice on how to play since I still need to learn myself. But I can give comments. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 1:
I think this is a clear fold on the river. Your flush didn`t get there. Best case scenario I think you would split. Someone might have an 8 but is too afraid to raise with it due to the possible straight, which someone also might have. I would fold this hand.

Hand 2:
Is K7 that good a hand sh? You do have the button, but still? I`m very much new to sh, just curious.
I think you played it ok. Not sure how to handle the SB though since he 3-bet on the turn. Might be a fold on the river? Need others view on this.

Hand 3:
In most cases I would fold to the turn raise, even though I sometimes don`t. That`s mostly because I can`t let go of hands every now and then, I`m working on that issue.
Depends a bit on the player. Could be someone playing JJ or something like that, being a bit too afraid to 3-bet pre. Strange thing is that the raise come on the turn, so I`d still think you`re behind here. Really not sure what the BEST play is. Player dependant I`d say.

Hand 4:
Isn`t this a fold pre? If you had a full table you would get very nice odds, maybe making it worth to see the flop and then fold unless flopping very good. Once again, not sure if that`s the correct way of thinking, so please correct me since this might be a leak I have.
That last K should`ve made your hand stronger, but since UTG raised, I`m not all that sure it did. Going for an overcall here and only using your J, not sure, but I think it`s a fold. But I`m a bit too tight post-flop. Need opinions. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2003, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

Fold all of these hand pre-flop except hand 3.

I think you played it (hand 3) ok.
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

If hands one and two are any indication, you are limping in with trashy hands. That'll kill ya.
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

my only question is, why did you call a single one of these hands preflop?
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

except hand 3
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

Fold all of these preflop but hand three. That hand was played fine. And lil is right on limping with this trash will get you killed and broke quickly.

You might want to find a good starters book, like Winning low limit holdem by Jones to iron out your pre flop decisions.
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:34 PM
Henke Henke is offline
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

[ QUOTE ]
Fold all of these preflop but hand three. That hand was played fine. And lil is right on limping with this trash will get you killed and broke quickly.


[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, just realized the hard way [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. It's amazing what a few bad beats and a couple of rounds of cold cards can do to your "card perception". Suddenly Qxs seems to be a great money winner just cuz LAG in EP1 just busted your AQ with one.

[ QUOTE ]

You might want to find a good starters book, like Winning low limit holdem by Jones to iron out your pre flop decisions.

[/ QUOTE ]
Actually I've got it [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Will probably need to study it though [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Thanks for taking time to answer!
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:38 PM
Henke Henke is offline
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

Yeah. A couple of beers later (and some time away from the computer) I suddenly feel embarased about even posting those hands [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Well, hopefully I won't make the same mistake again (I'm willing to bet on it if I get at least 1000-1 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

Thanks for your time!
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Old 11-27-2003, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Help! Got killed today!

What up Henke?

Ok, suggestion, multiple hand post don't get too much action around here. Just want to let you know for future posts.

Hand#1
Preflop FOLD!
Well if you are going to flop top pair, I'd raise it.

Hand#2
Preflop FOLD!
Why did you call on the flop? Fold here as well.

Hand#3
Nice raise preflop.
The BB bet out on the flop w/Top pair and you raised, he called.
When the top pair came on the turn and he check-raised you can lay this down.

Hand#4
Again fold preflop.

We'll tighten you up yet and you'll be winning in no time, stick with it.

Peace,
Joe Tall
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