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08-12-2005, 10:53 AM
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Do you like this turn check?
SB is a donkey dick, who shows strange aggression (likes to C/R, donk bets, etc.) and is hard to read but overall a dumb fish.
UTG is 34/13/1.5 over a large sample. Generally more passive than aggressive. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks. Final Pot: 5.50 BB 
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08-12-2005, 11:00 AM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
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08-12-2005, 11:18 AM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
no I can't say I like it. if SB is such a donkey dick then good he might c/r something you're ahead of and drive out UTG who probably has ~6 outs not counting hearts. if SB is gonna C/R black A8 for example and drive out UTG's Th, then hoo-wah!
I would bet here because it's still fairly likely you have the best hand and call down if SB checkraises but fold if UTG checkraises. EDIT: if you had good reason to suspect you were behind then I would say check with outs, but that's if you planned to fold to a c/r, and that c/r means you're giving up a hand that is drawing pretty live. and the pot has to be big enough to want it but not big enough to call the c/r. I would look at your outs here as additional equity in case you don't have the best hand. in HPFAP they say you should bet your hands with outs if you don't think you will be c/r'ed, but I think the same principle applies here because if you do get c/r'ed by SB it doesn't mean you're no good and I think the benefits of getting UTG out are more important than taking a free card to tainted outs when you might hav ethe best hand
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#5
08-12-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
fold preflop.
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08-12-2005, 01:24 PM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
i am not at the point where im playing hands like that on the button. what is your range of limping on the button? what is the rational behind limping and not raising?
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#8
08-12-2005, 01:25 PM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
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[ QUOTE ] fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] i think i need to limp more on the button if anything. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a [censored] lag and I fold this preflop. You need to bet the turn here. Rob
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#9
08-12-2005, 01:29 PM
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Re: Do you like this turn check?
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[ QUOTE ] fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] i think i need to limp more on the button if anything. [/ QUOTE ] If there was more than one limper I might, but this is silly. I'd advocate a raise before a limp here, and overall I'm saying fold preflop.
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