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Old 07-02-2004, 01:33 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Cold Call KK (offshoot of coldcalling AA) 15/30

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decent (read: reasonable) player raises UTG+1 all fold to me on the button. i got charlemagne and david(for those who have read richard epstein's theory of gambling and statistical logic--for those who havn't, King David is the Ks and Charlemagne is the Kh) and i make it 3. blinds fold

8s6s4h flops.

he bets i raise he 3bets i cap (?)

turn K, check bet call.

river 4. check bet call.

i think i cost myself bets but on the flop i was thinking if an overcard to his likely pair (99-QQ, very unlikely AA) hits then itll kill the action and i'll miss out on .5 small bets.

what about cold calling preflop and giving up that .5 sb's for a turn play?

its a small fraction of bets here in the l-r but is it worth it?

-Barron
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Old 07-02-2004, 01:43 PM
stoxtrader stoxtrader is offline
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Default Re: Cold Call KK (offshoot of coldcalling AA) 15/30

Heads-up with position on a rags flop, calling rather than raising the 3bet is very viable against a thinking opponent. This means he is very likely to lead the turn and you get .5SB more that way if he calls down, potentially more than that.

I would have called three on the flop and led the turn, it's even easier to play that way since you have Ks.
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Old 07-02-2004, 02:40 PM
nykenny nykenny is offline
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Default Re: Cold Call KK (offshoot of coldcalling AA) 15/30

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what about cold calling preflop and giving up that .5 sb's for a turn play?

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pflop:
3 bet btf is important. u want to play against a likely big (not as big as yours) hand alone. in addition, you don't mind the dead money in the pot.

flop:
i also like to reveal strengh right away, the added benefit is that this play provides some cover for sometimes u actually play this way with over cards or a good draw.

maybe if i were out of position, i'd bet and call a raise on the flop and hope to check/raise the turn, still, it is not my favorite trick.

Kenny
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