A hand where I three bet the turn with TPGK

brettbrettr · #1 10-20-2005, 10:30 AM

5/10 UB, villan is a bit passive pre-flop, taggish post-flop. No dummy.

2 limpers, I raise QJs in LP, BB calls, limpers call.

Flop come 36T. All check to me, I bet, BB folds, villan calls, others fold.

Turn: Q. Villan checks, I bet, villan raises, I three-bet....

flair1239 · #2 10-20-2005, 10:42 AM

I would have thought you would hear from a Ten on the flop. Especially since villian had good position to get HU.

A bit passive PF could limp KQ. I guess I could see doing a CR with 88 or 99 here, but if I were the villian I think the Q would freeze me. I hate always seeing sets everywhere, but it fits the bill of that type of hand or a bigger Q.

That said I am not hating your line as long as you can lay down to a cap. I myself am calling down. Becuase here is a situation I hate, what if he calls the turn... then river donks you... I hate that. Puts you in a position where you are having to really consider folding a showdownable hand in what is now a big pot (that you created with your 3-bet).

If you can resolve to fold unimproved on the river and fold to a turn cap, then I think it is just OK. But I would just call it down..expecting to lose (as a matter of fact there are player types that I fold this to on the turn).

brettbrettr · #3 10-20-2005, 10:53 AM

I'd fold to a cap, but call a river donk bet.

In retrospect, I'm not liking this as much now as I did when I did it [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img], but I think there's a good concept here.

brettbrettr · #4 10-20-2005, 02:55 PM

bump for the afternooners?

hobbsmann · #5 10-20-2005, 03:20 PM

I don't really like it. I think you will get c/r on this turn at least as often if not more by better hands. A 3-bet also gives him an excuse to fold a ten while he will likely keep betting a ten on the river if you just call his c/r.

callmedonnie · #6 10-20-2005, 03:35 PM

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give villain an excuse to fold a ten while he will likely keep betting a ten on the river if you just call his c/r.

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i think i agree with this.

toss · #7 10-20-2005, 03:43 PM

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I don't really like it. I think you will get c/r on this turn at least as often if not more by better hands. A 3-bet also gives him an excuse to fold a ten while he will likely keep betting a ten on the river if you just call his c/r.

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I agree with this aswell.

brettbrettr · #8 10-20-2005, 03:47 PM

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I don't really like it. I think you will get c/r on this turn at least as often if not more by better hands. A 3-bet also gives him an excuse to fold a ten while he will likely keep betting a ten on the river if you just call his c/r.

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I agree with this aswell.

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Yeah, I do too, in retrospect. I do think there are spots to 3 bet the turn with top pair though, and it comes after you make a flop bet after missing, and get c/r'd on the turn when you hit.

lighterjobs · #9 10-20-2005, 04:07 PM

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A 3-bet also gives him an excuse to fold a ten while he will likely keep betting a ten on the river if you just call his c/r.

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good point.