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Old 09-02-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Definition of Living Thing ?

What is your definition of a 'living' thing. That is, what criteria must something meet in order to be considered "alive."








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Old 09-02-2005, 04:36 PM
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To me...

Life is based on carbon compound (on earth at least) but to avoid the big debate saying that oil contain carbon and isn't alive. A few requirement other than that :

Should contain molecular components (lipids, proteins, etc.)
They require energy to sustain themselves.
They contain at least one cell (plant/animal based)
It can maintain a certain degree of homeostasis (it's compound doesn't go crazy)
They evolve at certain speed

Now this is for life as we know it...on earth. ET life form wouldn't need to be carbon based.
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Definition of Living Thing ?

1. can accept outside information and react, in multiple ways, based on that information.

i think all plants and animals fit into this catagory, but no elements do.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:23 PM
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It’s not easy to come with a complete answer, but all living things must:
Be composed of cells, grow, generate energy, respond to environment, maintain stability (homeostasis) and reproduce.

“What criteria must something meet in order to be considered "alive."”

I suppose the battle that gives to survive.
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Old 09-02-2005, 08:05 PM
Hamish McBagpipe Hamish McBagpipe is offline
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Default Re: Definition of Living Thing ?

This has been done a couple of times recently. Anywho, ____ is a chemical reaction that fills the usual criteria. It is clearly not alive. Neither is a computer virus. Most of us from high school biology know that a real virus (and some other lower forms) with its incomplete strands of DNA (RNA?) is the cutoff point with some saying a virus strand is not alive, some saying it is, but few claiming life can exist without ANY genetic components at all.
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Old 09-02-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Definition of Living Thing ?

I guess it depends on context.

Is it possible to have a conscious self-aware entity that is not alive?
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Old 09-02-2005, 09:19 PM
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If such a thing exist I would like to see it...some religion fanatics could probably find some [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-02-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Definition of Living Thing ?

Anything that eventually dies.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:58 PM
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Only if you have defined a living thing as self-aware, which most people do not.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: Definition of Living Thing ?

[ QUOTE ]
To me...

Life is based on carbon compound (on earth at least) but to avoid the big debate saying that oil contain carbon and isn't alive. A few requirement other than that :

Should contain molecular components (lipids, proteins, etc.)
They require energy to sustain themselves.
They contain at least one cell (plant/animal based)
It can maintain a certain degree of homeostasis (it's compound doesn't go crazy)
They evolve at certain speed

Now this is for life as we know it...on earth. ET life form wouldn't need to be carbon based.

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yes these are characteristics that fit, though you should also include reproduction, response to stimuli, and growth (waste/mass production, etc.). We use these to distinguish living from nonliving things,
but regardless, something cannot be living if it does not fit into one of the 4 kingdoms. <font color="white">fire </font> does not
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