AK vs. 14/7/3

PokerBob · #1 04-24-2005, 04:01 PM

Villain here is solid. His numbers are through 10K hands.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero ???????

DMBFan23 · #2 04-24-2005, 04:03 PM

I like calling here and probably on the river, though raising the river would have some merit.

Entity · #3 04-24-2005, 04:04 PM

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I like calling here and probably on the river, though raising the river would have some merit.

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I don't think raising the river has much merit UI. You're basically hoping he has AJ and will pay off with it.

I'd call and call the river unless a J falls.

Rob

Little Fishy · #4 04-24-2005, 04:12 PM

How would you have played this one if villain was an unknown??

would you have raised the flop or the turn??

-little fishy

DMBFan23 · #5 04-24-2005, 04:18 PM

yeah I should have said 'might' have merit, it was just something that popped into my head as I typed it. I should have made it clearer that I would call, but I wondered if raising is good.

tyler_cracker · #6 04-24-2005, 05:04 PM

I really don't understand your flat call on the flop.

Are you afraid of a bigger starting hand (extremely unlikely -- a solid player is probably going to cap with AA, and you can't think he has TT or 55 yet)?

Are you setting up for a raise on the turn?

You need to raise on the flop to 1. charge a gutshot (KQ is pretty likely here) as much as possible and 2. find out where you're at while you're still on a cheap street. Had you raised on the flop, you would have either gotten called, and felt a little better that your hand was still best, or you would have gotten raised, and you could start worrying about a set. Without that raise, you're faced with a tricky decision here on the turn.

Entity · #7 04-24-2005, 05:07 PM

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I really don't understand your flat call on the flop.

Are you afraid of a bigger starting hand (extremely unlikely -- a solid player is probably going to cap with AA, and you can't think he has TT or 55 yet)?

Are you setting up for a raise on the turn?

You need to raise on the flop to 1. charge a gutshot (KQ is pretty likely here) as much as possible and 2. find out where you're at while you're still on a cheap street. Had you raised on the flop, you would have either gotten called, and felt a little better that your hand was still best, or you would have gotten raised, and you could start worrying about a set. Without that raise, you're faced with a tricky decision here on the turn.

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We don't raise the flop because we want villain to keep betting with worse hands, and we really don't want to get 3-bet by better hands.

KQ is not likely at all here.

Raising for information isn't a very good idea against a good opponent.

ErrantNight · #8 04-24-2005, 05:55 PM

calls. planning to call the river or bet if checked to and call a c/r unimproved.

although, really, i'd suggest rivering a J.

PokerBob · #9 04-24-2005, 05:57 PM

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although, really, i'd suggest rivering a J.

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I hadn't thought of that. I have much to work on.

PokerBob · #10 04-24-2005, 05:58 PM

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Villain here is solid. His numbers are through 10K hands.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero ???????

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I said "[censored]" very loud and called him down (the river was a brick). He showed me KQo and I was shocked.