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Old 02-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Benman Benman is offline
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Default Theory about capping PF

When it's three bets to you PF and you're going to play, you basically have two options: call or cap. It seems to me that the information you give away about your hand by sometimes doing one and sometimes doing the other might be more harmful at this stage than simply adopting a policy of always doing one or the other. Does anyone agree with this?
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

What information will you be giving away? Any hand that is good enough to call two raises is good enough to reraise with. So calling either gives away that you are a fish or slowplaying a monster. But reraising also gives away either you are maniac or playing a monster. With premium hands (AA-QQ, AKs-AK) your expectation is so high (especially AA-KK) that you want to get as much money in as you can when you before the flop.
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

it depends on your opponents. if you're up against monkeys, you losing $$$ by not capping, they'll still call you down when they flop middle pair or with their middle pocket pair.

Against, aggressive observant opponents, calling a 3-bet with high pockets is ok for deceptive purposes, but only in heads up situations.
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

Heads-up I think this has some merit, but if you can get 2 or more bets in with the best of it, you're giving too much up by not doing it.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

Also when they have QQ/JJ, and A or K flops, they sometimes give up. You need to make as much as you can before the flop before it dawns on them that they might be beat.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

There are 3-bet and there are 3-bets. UTG raising and getting 3-bet by UTG+1 is way different from a CO openraise that is 3-bet by the SB.
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Old 02-11-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

sometimes its good to cap with a hand that might not be best (QQ is those in front are tight) to take the lead after the flop esp, if you're on the button.

on the other hand, if you're in sb, just calling the 3 bet with AA(and hoping that when it comes to the original bettor he caps) will mask your hand a bit better and make c/ring the turn (or flop if its draw heavy) much easier

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Old 02-11-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

They don't give up. They never give up, they call all the way down.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:38 PM
Alexthegreat Alexthegreat is offline
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

I think in most games if there is more than 3 players in the pot, for post-flop purposes it doesn't matter who does the capping...I think smooth calling a 3-bet from the SB with any high PP is giving up too much....if you check after capping, they will just assume you've missed and let you checkraise them anyways....
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Old 02-11-2005, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Theory about capping PF

Don't be too quick to give your opponents too much credit. Many players arent even thinking along lines anywhere near what we are. If it looks like a duck, raise it.
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