River CR

vanHelsing · #1 01-22-2005, 04:19 AM

I am pretty new to the table.
Villain seems LAGgy and I have seen him in a 3 handed minraised pot, monochrome flop, villain checks, I check, Button bets 2$, villain raises to 15, fold, fold, villain voluntary shows an absolute garbage hand.

2 hands later:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($83.45)
UTG ($69.5)
MP ($189)
Hero ($47.5)
SB ($150.77)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB (poster) folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8, MP calls $8.

River: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $12, MP raises to $50, Hero ?

istewart · #2 01-22-2005, 04:21 AM

QJd or a complete bluff, something of that sort. Not sure, would like to see the opinions of others.

MarkL444 · #3 01-22-2005, 04:31 AM

Raise preflop. Flop and turn are good. Im typically folding to this c/r.

vanHelsing · #4 01-22-2005, 04:43 AM

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Raise preflop. Flop and turn are good. Im typically folding to this c/r.

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how is the river bet?

vanHelsing · #5 01-22-2005, 05:46 AM

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Raise preflop.

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I just moved up to NL50 6max. While I am not as aggressive as I was in NL25, my PFR% is still > 10. I hope that's about enough.
For this hand: That looked like a live table and people would call you with any peace of the board. So I felt this hand was hard to follow up.
Is this always a PFR SH, no matter what?

MarkL444 · #6 01-22-2005, 05:49 AM

Do you think MP is limping with a hand better than yours?

vanHelsing · #7 01-22-2005, 06:07 AM

No.
But when I miss the flop and have position HU, I usually bet pot, he will call 90% of the time, MP, BP, Backdoordraw, anything seems worth a potbet for them and I don't know where I am. Even if I hit TP, I don't know how to continue.

While writing this, I just lost another one against this type of player:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($61.25)
UTG ($120.42)
Button ($73.53)
SB ($49)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, Button calls $1, SB (poster) folds, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($10.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button calls $9.

Turn: ($28.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($28.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button calls $59.53 (All-In), Hero calls $17.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $135.28

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and jacks).
Button has Jh Td (full house, jacks full of sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $135.28.

edge · #8 01-22-2005, 06:11 AM

First hand I fold preflop, and the river call is totally read-dependent, but I'd bet a bit more on the river (maybe 2/3 pot?).

Second hand I don't like the river bet. You'll only fold out worse hands and get called/raised by better hands. I'm check/calling this one.

vanHelsing · #9 01-22-2005, 06:15 AM

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Second hand I don't like the river bet. You'll only fold out worse hands and get called/raised by better hands. I'm check/calling this one.

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I agree!

MarkL444 · #10 01-22-2005, 06:16 AM

bet the turn homey