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Old 02-05-2002, 05:24 PM
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3-6 Paradise hand. I'm in the in the cutoff with AKo. All fold to me. I raise. all fold except BB. flop comes A-x-x rainbow. BB checks. Should I check in order to try and induce a bluff/bet from weaker hand on the turn? I ended up betting, BB folded. I've recently been run over too many times trying to slowplay that I think I've almost lost my ability to use the play, unless i flop a ridiculous monster (full house or better)
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Old 02-05-2002, 05:35 PM
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Alan, are you sure you want to talk strategy on this forum? 8


It is ALMOST never correct to slowplay. I'm even having a hard time thinking up an example. Maybe if you are having constant trouble with one player running you off weak hands, then you can mix it up against this particular player. But other than this, I would play strong, especially at paradise. You will often run into people that will checkraise a preflop raiser with nothing when an ace comes on the flop.


Tuco.
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Old 02-05-2002, 06:17 PM
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Tuco


I'm from the school of offering a player a mix of hands to each situation. I hate to say the G word, game theory, but it applies here. If you always bet ace-very good, along with every ace most likely, then when you check you give your opponent too much accurate info. IMO.


It doesn't take too many ace-good, which you truely believe is the best hand, crushed on the turn and river from up front, by AK to make you back off value bets on the turn.


Yes, you give a narrow range of free cards which kill you, but you give alot of two faces cards a chance to come in second.


Tuco, my wife would rather have you playing my money than me. What does she know.


MS Sunshine
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Old 02-05-2002, 06:44 PM
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MS,


While I agree in general with your comments about the G word, IMHO, internet poker is a different animal. As my friend, jennifer29, pointed out to me the other day, internet poker players have about a ten minute memory capacity. In a live game, you can look up at a guy and think, "oh ya, that guy checked top pair on the flop in the last spot an hour ago". Online, very few, or at least less than live, will remember. The others, such as yourself, need to be thrown a curveball now and then. But to advocate checking AK headsup against a limp-caller in a paradise 3/6 game, IMHO would be a significant mistake. The value you would gain in deception, would be more than made up in a payoff/badplay from Mr. limper.


Also, in live play, you have ALOT less distractions in the middle of the hand. You have little choice but to pay attention to what your opponents are doing during the course of a hand. Online, players play three games, surf some porn, and visit kitty torture sites. This play's value will be lost on at least half the field.


My wife would also like for me to play your bankroll. That way, she would not have to constantly hear about how broke we are, only how broke you are. 8


Tuco.


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Old 02-05-2002, 09:45 PM
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"Online, players play three games, surf some porn, and visit kitty torture sites. This play's value will be lost on at least half the field.


My wife would also like for me to play your bankroll. That way, she would not have to constantly hear about how broke we are, only how broke you are. 8"


First Darling your husband is lying to you. He's making $60 an hour and don't believe that "Everything comes thru PayPal." Your husband lies just to keep in practice.


And I can give up kitty snuff anytime I want.


MS Sunshine



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Old 02-05-2002, 10:55 PM
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"Should I check in order to try and induce a bluff/bet from weaker hand on the turn?"


If I was the BB and you didn't bet this flop I would put you on either AA or AK. It's better to bet and let him try to make a move on you then giving him a free card.


Paradise games are pretty tough, but I still think that straightforward play gets the money at the 5/10 level and lower.


Here's a 5/10 hand I played today...


I'm in BB with TT. Cutoff open raises, folded to me, I 3 bet, he calls.


Flop AT3r. I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he calls.


Turn 7. I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he calls.


Turn J. I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he calls.


My set of tens beats his A7o. Now, I was fortunate he caught his 7 on the turn, but I would have probably missed out on 3 big bets had I check/called the flop, then check/raised the turn or tried some other slowplay.
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Old 02-05-2002, 11:08 PM
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"Online, players play three games, surf some porn, and visit kitty torture sites."


Meow?
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Old 02-06-2002, 11:55 AM
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you open raised in the cutoff, so you dont have to have anything at all.


I would always bet this flop, even with 7-2o. not betting looks very suspicious.


but, with AK, if he calls the flop bet you may want to check and along on the turn on an A or K high raggedy board to keep him drawing dead with something like JTs, inducing a bluff, or getting a value bet from a dead pair made on the river.
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