AQo laydown on river

[Beck]

I've had some massive beatings lately, and getting worried that I'm playing scared. Bad laydown on river? What do you put them on??

Game #153261373: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2004/10/28 - 21:57:42 (GMT)
Table "Atlantis" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: rezster1 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Kanesters ($37.50 in chips)
Seat 3: DarRake26 ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: davecoso ($49.75 in chips)
Seat 5: peggy ($77.25 in chips)
Seat 6: REC70 ($55.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Mulklar ($20 in chips)
Seat 8: Rooneybea ($3.75 in chips)
Seat 9: ThePearl ($53.25 in chips)
Seat 10: Mingrove1 ($25 in chips)
Kanesters: posts small blind $0.50
DarRake26: posts big blind $1
Mingrove1: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Mulklar [Qc As]
davecoso: folds
peggy: calls $1
REC70: folds
Mulklar: raises $2
Rooneybea: folds
ThePearl: folds
Mingrove1: calls $1
rezster1: folds
Kanesters: raises $2.50
DarRake26: folds
peggy: calls $2
Mulklar: calls $1
Mingrove1: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [Kd Qs 4h]
Kanesters: bets $1
peggy: calls $1
Mulklar: calls $1
Mingrove1: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [Kd Qs 4h][6h]
Kanesters: bets $2
peggy: calls $2
Mulklar: calls $2
Mingrove1: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [Kd Qs 4h 6h][9h]
Kanesters: bets $2
peggy: calls $2
Mulklar: folds
Mingrove1: folds

[Beck]

No comments?? no "you're playing too scared, you chicken"??

[DMBFan23]

I don't think you're good 1:14 here, I'd fold it too.

that said, if he showed you something like JJ then you can buddy list him.

it will be easier to reply if your hands are run through the converter.
http://www.selachian.com/tools/bison...hconverter.cgi

[jzpiano14]

Next time use Bison's hand converter, it makes this crap much easier to read, plus you refrain from using people's handles, THX [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[elbuddha]

I'm a total newbie, and mostly wrong, but anyway...

Villian is as likely to have a Q as a K, and you have top kicker. Villian very possibly has many other hands that you already beat (AJ, JT,...). I have to raise the flop here, otherwise I'm completely in the dark.

[ig0r]

I would have raised the flop, folded to 3-bet. If called and he bet out again on turn, I would probably have folded as well. I guess I'm even more scared than you...

[holdemfan]

I think that calling all the way is the problem. On flop you had 13sbets. Why not test to see if your Q is good? If you think not fold. If you want to know raise. You may (should) push out draws. Sure you put an extra SB in but it would have saved you .5 BB and frustration by allowing you to fold or saved you the hand by folding others. Any one with KK,AA,AK,QQ,JJ would stay or reraise before the flop. The reraise preflop is unlikely with KQ KJ, but your lack of reraising after may give his test of betting the image that his AA,JJ,TT ect may have a chance. If anyone had KQ KK QQ they may have a desire to slow play to Turn/River and then start raising. Would Kanesters let the field start the betting on the flop if he had the monster? It's hard to know because we don't know what kind of players they are, tight, passive, loose, aggressive, etc.. Is Peggy a call station? Peggy's lack of aggression on river says she didnt have monster or she did untill flush possibility showed. How does Kanesters percieve you and the table.
Summary, IMHO,If your not going to go after it fold.
Holdemfan

[Beck]

I DID try to run it through the converter, but it wouldn't accept it, though. Maybe because it was a crypto-hand??

Actually, he did show JJ......